From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:43:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: <34456.128.165.123.18.1190066585.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190069102 17084 80.91.229.12 (17 Sep 2007 22:45:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:45:02 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 18 00:44:56 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IXPKp-0006bJ-UN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:44:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXPKo-0004lu-I3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:44:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXPKl-0004lj-NH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:44:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXPKl-0004lX-7t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:44:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXPKl-0004lU-5I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:44:51 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IXPKk-0004gD-FH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:44:50 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l8HMimsn027217 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:44:48 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id l8HCU4XR030441 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:44:47 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-4op11-4op12-west-130-35-178-158.us.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3219551291190069007; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:43:27 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <34456.128.165.123.18.1190066585.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79149 Archived-At: > one could make the splash screen appear regardless the very first > time Emacs were run, in that if no .emacs were present it would > automatically write one that suppressed the splash-screen-with-arguments > behavior. Yes, the splash screen is useful for a first use of Emacs, and its usefulness diminishes over time. FWIW, I do something similar to give new Icicles users a help reminder in the prompt. It is there only for N Emacs sessions, but a user can override this behavior. FWIW, this is what I do: (defcustom icicle-reminder-prompt-flag 7 "*Whether to include a help reminder in minibuffer prompt. nil means never use the reminder. Non-nil means use the reminder, if space permits: An integer value means use only for that many Emacs sessions. t means always use it." :type '(choice (const :tag "Never use a reminder in the prompt" nil) (const :tag "Always use a reminder in the prompt" t) (integer :tag "Use a reminder in the prompt for this sessions" :value 7)) :group 'Icicles-Minibuffer-Display) Icicle minor mode then adds/removes `icicle-control-reminder-prompt' to/from `kill-emacs-hook'. (defun icicle-control-reminder-prompt () "If `icicle-reminder-prompt-flag' > 0, decrement it and save it. Used in `kill-emacs-hook'." (when (and (wholenump icicle-reminder-prompt-flag) (> icicle-reminder-prompt-flag 0)) (condition-case nil ; Because it's on `kill-emacs-hook. (customize-save-variable 'icicle-reminder-prompt-flag (1- icicle-reminder-prompt-flag)) (error nil))))