info org section 3.1

info org section 3.1

[Jude DaShiell]

Something is undocumented and broken.  Attempting to create the table 
documented in section 3.1 of the manual generates a beep and the message:
Symbol's value as variable is void: org-use-sub-superscripts
at the bottom of the screen and hitting tab just tells me I'm at the 
beginning of the buffer after that operation.  After I keyed in the 
example I tried c-c c-ret because writing a second line and putting |- on 
it caused the same problem to happen.


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Re: info org section 3.1

[Charles Philip Chan]

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Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> writes:

Hi Jude:

> Something is undocumented and broken.  Attempting to create the table 
> documented in section 3.1 of the manual generates a beep and the message:
> Symbol's value as variable is void: org-use-sub-superscripts
> at the bottom of the screen and hitting tab just tells me I'm at the 
> beginning of the buffer after that operation.  After I keyed in the 
> example I tried c-c c-ret because writing a second line and putting |- on 
> it caused the same problem to happen.

Something is very wrong with your installation- the example works fine
here. It seems like your org.el is not loaded properly since
"org-use-sub-superscripts" is defined there:

,----[ Output of C-h v org-use-sub-superscripts]
| org-use-sub-superscripts is a variable defined in `org.el'.
| Its value is t
| 
| Documentation:
| Non-nil means interpret "_" and "^" for export.
| When this option is turned on, you can use TeX-like syntax for sub- and
| superscripts.  Several characters after "_" or "^" will be
| considered as a single item - so grouping with {} is normally not
| needed.  For example, the following things will be parsed as single
| sub- or superscripts.
| 
|  10^24   or   10^tau     several digits will be considered 1 item.
|  10^-12  or   10^-tau    a leading sign with digits or a word
|  x^2-y^3                 will be read as x^2 - y^3, because items are
| 			 terminated by almost any nonword/nondigit char.
|  x_{i^2} or   x^(2-i)    braces or parenthesis do grouping.
| 
| Still, ambiguity is possible - so when in doubt use {} to enclose the
| sub/superscript.  If you set this variable to the symbol `{}',
| the braces are *required* in order to trigger interpretations as
| sub/superscript.  This can be helpful in documents that need "_"
| frequently in plain text.
| 
| Not all export backends support this, but HTML does.
| 
| This option can also be set with the #+OPTIONS line, e.g. "^:nil".
| 
| You can customize this variable.
| 
| This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in
| version 24.1 of Emacs.
`----

Cheers,
Charles

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Re: info org section 3.1

[Jude DaShiell]

This happens using gnu-emacs 23.41 and org 7.9.11 and that emacs is the 
current debian package version.  I used git clone to install and update 
org mode too.

On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, Charles Philip Chan wrote:

> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> writes:
> 
> Hi Jude:
> 
> > Something is undocumented and broken.  Attempting to create the table 
> > documented in section 3.1 of the manual generates a beep and the message:
> > Symbol's value as variable is void: org-use-sub-superscripts
> > at the bottom of the screen and hitting tab just tells me I'm at the 
> > beginning of the buffer after that operation.  After I keyed in the 
> > example I tried c-c c-ret because writing a second line and putting |- on 
> > it caused the same problem to happen.
> 
> Something is very wrong with your installation- the example works fine
> here. It seems like your org.el is not loaded properly since
> "org-use-sub-superscripts" is defined there:
> 
> ,----[ Output of C-h v org-use-sub-superscripts]
> | org-use-sub-superscripts is a variable defined in `org.el'.
> | Its value is t
> | 
> | Documentation:
> | Non-nil means interpret "_" and "^" for export.
> | When this option is turned on, you can use TeX-like syntax for sub- and
> | superscripts.  Several characters after "_" or "^" will be
> | considered as a single item - so grouping with {} is normally not
> | needed.  For example, the following things will be parsed as single
> | sub- or superscripts.
> | 
> |  10^24   or   10^tau     several digits will be considered 1 item.
> |  10^-12  or   10^-tau    a leading sign with digits or a word
> |  x^2-y^3                 will be read as x^2 - y^3, because items are
> | 			 terminated by almost any nonword/nondigit char.
> |  x_{i^2} or   x^(2-i)    braces or parenthesis do grouping.
> | 
> | Still, ambiguity is possible - so when in doubt use {} to enclose the
> | sub/superscript.  If you set this variable to the symbol `{}',
> | the braces are *required* in order to trigger interpretations as
> | sub/superscript.  This can be helpful in documents that need "_"
> | frequently in plain text.
> | 
> | Not all export backends support this, but HTML does.
> | 
> | This option can also be set with the #+OPTIONS line, e.g. "^:nil".
> | 
> | You can customize this variable.
> | 
> | This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in
> | version 24.1 of Emacs.
> `----
> 
> Cheers,
> Charles
> 
> 

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Re: info org section 3.1

[Charles Philip Chan]

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Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> writes:

Hi Jude:

> This happens using gnu-emacs 23.41 and org 7.9.11 and that emacs is
> the current debian package version.  I used git clone to install and
> update org mode too.

Maybe it is a mixed installation problem again. Have you tried the
suggestions here:

,----[ http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#mixed-install ]
| Is my Orgmode installation mixed?
| 
| Emacs is distributed with a version of Orgmode bundled with it. A common
| problem among users who install a newer version of Orgmode separately is
| a mixed install where Emacs loads some files from the bundled and the
| rest from the latest version. This can lead to unending troubles in the
| future. An easy first step to investigate this is to look at the output
| of M-x org-version.
| 
| Good 
|     Org-mode version 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-448-g1737d3 @ /path/to/org-mode/lisp/)
| 
| Bad 
|     Org-mode version 6.33x (release_7.8.11.409.ga3778)
| 
| You should go through the output of list-load-path-shadows line-by-line
| to get hints to what in your configuration is causing the issue. Among
| the most common reasons is Orgmode gets loaded before the load-path
| variable is updated to include the installation directory of the latest
| Orgmode. To avoid issues like this, it is recommended that the load path
| is updated very early on in your init file.
`----

Cheers,
Charles

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Re: info org section 3.1

[Jude DaShiell]

As an experiment, I replaced the org-mode from git with the debian 
org-mode package version 7.8.11 and tried creating the table again.  
This time, no errors.  Apparently something happened between 7.8.11 and 
7.9.11 to make this happen even with emacs 23.x systems.

On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, Charles Philip Chan wrote:

> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> writes:
> 
> Hi Jude:
> 
> > This happens using gnu-emacs 23.41 and org 7.9.11 and that emacs is
> > the current debian package version.  I used git clone to install and
> > update org mode too.
> 
> Maybe it is a mixed installation problem again. Have you tried the
> suggestions here:
> 
> ,----[ http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#mixed-install ]
> | Is my Orgmode installation mixed?
> | 
> | Emacs is distributed with a version of Orgmode bundled with it. A common
> | problem among users who install a newer version of Orgmode separately is
> | a mixed install where Emacs loads some files from the bundled and the
> | rest from the latest version. This can lead to unending troubles in the
> | future. An easy first step to investigate this is to look at the output
> | of M-x org-version.
> | 
> | Good 
> |     Org-mode version 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-448-g1737d3 @ /path/to/org-mode/lisp/)
> | 
> | Bad 
> |     Org-mode version 6.33x (release_7.8.11.409.ga3778)
> | 
> | You should go through the output of list-load-path-shadows line-by-line
> | to get hints to what in your configuration is causing the issue. Among
> | the most common reasons is Orgmode gets loaded before the load-path
> | variable is updated to include the installation directory of the latest
> | Orgmode. To avoid issues like this, it is recommended that the load path
> | is updated very early on in your init file.
> `----
> 
> Cheers,
> Charles
> 
> 

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Re: info org section 3.1

[Ian Barton]

On 07/09/12 10:16, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> As an experiment, I replaced the org-mode from git with the debian
> org-mode package version 7.8.11 and tried creating the table again.
> This time, no errors.  Apparently something happened between 7.8.11 and
> 7.9.11 to make this happen even with emacs 23.x systems.
>
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
>
>> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> writes:
>>
>> Hi Jude:
>>
>>> This happens using gnu-emacs 23.41 and org 7.9.11 and that emacs is
>>> the current debian package version.  I used git clone to install and
>>> update org mode too.
>>
>> Maybe it is a mixed installation problem again. Have you tried the
>> suggestions here:
>>
>> ,----[ http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#mixed-install ]
>> | Is my Orgmode installation mixed?
>> |
>> | Emacs is distributed with a version of Orgmode bundled with it. A common
>> | problem among users who install a newer version of Orgmode separately is
>> | a mixed install where Emacs loads some files from the bundled and the
>> | rest from the latest version. This can lead to unending troubles in the
>> | future. An easy first step to investigate this is to look at the output
>> | of M-x org-version.
>> |
>> | Good
>> |     Org-mode version 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-448-g1737d3 @ /path/to/org-mode/lisp/)
>> |
>> | Bad
>> |     Org-mode version 6.33x (release_7.8.11.409.ga3778)
>> |
>> | You should go through the output of list-load-path-shadows line-by-line
>> | to get hints to what in your configuration is causing the issue. Among
>> | the most common reasons is Orgmode gets loaded before the load-path
>> | variable is updated to include the installation directory of the latest
>> | Orgmode. To avoid issues like this, it is recommended that the load path
>> | is updated very early on in your init file.
>> `----
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Charles
>>
>>

I am using a recent git version 97c1b93e045e90ebb6d8a9d15a064d8ae717260b 
and the example works correctly here.

Ian.

Re: info org section 3.1

[Charles Philip Chan]

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Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> writes:

> As an experiment, I replaced the org-mode from git with the debian 
> org-mode package version 7.8.11 and tried creating the table again.  
> This time, no errors.  Apparently something happened between 7.8.11 and 
> 7.9.11 to make this happen even with emacs 23.x systems.

I am using the latest git version:

,----
| Org-mode version 7.9.1 (release_7.9.1-149-gd5fddb.dirty @ /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org/)
`----

and have no problems. You should really debug it by using the "mixed
installation" instructions in the FAQ.

Charles

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Re: info org section 3.1

[Achim Gratz]

Jude DaShiell writes:
> This happens using gnu-emacs 23.41 and org 7.9.11 and that emacs is the 
> current debian package version.  I used git clone to install and update 
> org mode too.

… I sincerely hope that after cloning the orgmode repo you also did at
least a

make uncompiled

If not, please do it and let us know if it helped.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: info org section 3.1

[Jude DaShiell]

Okay, that make ./uncompiled did the trick, everything had its autoloads 
made again and now the example in 3.1 works with no problems.  Thanks.

On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, Achim Gratz wrote:

> Jude DaShiell writes:
> > This happens using gnu-emacs 23.41 and org 7.9.11 and that emacs is the 
> > current debian package version.  I used git clone to install and update 
> > org mode too.
> 
> ? I sincerely hope that after cloning the orgmode repo you also did at
> least a
> 
> make uncompiled
> 
> If not, please do it and let us know if it helped.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Achim.
> 

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