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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Chong Yidong'" <cyd@gnu.org>
Cc: 'Karl Fogel' <kfogel@red-bean.com>, 12507@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:18:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BE4516D85AEB4308AA65D4BAFBE14AA5@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873925ebpd.fsf@gnu.org>

> > Am I wrong that `write-region' does not provide for backups?
> > If not, then this is clearly a bug, and a pretty serious one, IMO.
> 
> It would be annoying litter the filesystem with backups for every
> internal configuration file.

Why not let _users_ decide what is annoying to them and their filesystems?  Some
users (and I know some) might well want a backup file for their bookmarks.  See
bug #12503 for a hint why.

But if you've already decided that a fix for this bug is not to be, because it
is a bad idea for a user to back up her bookmark file, then why send this bug to
the wishlist instead of marking it wontfix?  Or does wishlist for you really
mean the same thing as wontfix?

> The abbrev file and desktop file are not
> backed up either, and I think that's fine.

Is your `custom-file' an "internal configuration file"?  Do you back it up?

It is not just about what you think is fine for users - not when it comes to
user data.  It's about what individual users think about their data.  Let them
decide, please.

And as I said, we even have a user option for whether you want your
bookmark-file backups to be numbered: `bookmark-version-control'.  Imagine that!
Besides `version-control', which applies to all files, we even give you a
special option that applies only to your bookmark file.

What do you think is the point of that option, if your bookmark file is in fact
NEVER backed up at all?  Do you not see a bug here?

> I wouldn't mind adding a global feature to optionally enable 
> backups for such files.

Fine.  Let users enable backups, please.  I have no problem with making that a
user option.

But in that case please document the fact that `bookmark-version-control' has no
effect when your new option is turned off (no backups).  Let's make it as clear
as possible how to (a) turn backing up on/off and (b) control the backup naming
when on.






  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-26  3:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87bogubqjy.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <handler.s.C.13485522721217.transcript@debbugs.gnu.org>
2012-09-25 13:53   ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Drew Adams
2012-09-26  2:53     ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-26  3:18       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2012-09-26  4:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 14:19           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 19:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 20:31               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 21:46         ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-26 22:26           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 23:36             ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 15:48             ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 16:00               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 17:57                 ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 18:32                   ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27  3:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-24 18:41             ` bug#12507: 24.2.50; `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Drew Adams
2012-09-27  5:38               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-27 18:37                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 21:16                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28  9:04                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28 20:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29  7:42               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 14:36                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 15:12                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 15:51                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:20               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 16:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:57                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-10-01  3:38               ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:06                 ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so docstring " Drew Adams
2012-10-01  4:13               ` bug#12507: Have I mentioned how much I hate Debbugs? Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-10-01 21:23                   ` Karl Fogel
2012-10-01 22:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-10-02  5:31                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2020-11-29  1:07               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Karl Fogel
2012-09-27  8:36         ` bug#12507: `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Juri Linkov
2012-09-27 15:02           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-18 15:02       ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 16:23         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-19 14:18           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 17:29             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23  6:41               ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-23 13:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 16:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 13:58                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-29  5:27                       ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 14:29                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 14:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 18:13                   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23 18:14                 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-29  5:25                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 15:45                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-29  0:28                       ` Karl Fogel

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