From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: add a mode-line menu to menu-bar? Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:04:09 -0800 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162667201 6571 80.91.229.2 (4 Nov 2006 19:06:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 04 20:06:39 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQqO-0001Fr-Nr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:06:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQqO-00035Y-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:06:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQqC-00035E-Vh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:06:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQqB-00034g-Ab for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:06:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgQqB-00034d-6w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:06:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [148.87.113.118] (helo=rgminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GgQq9-0000I1-Uq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:06:03 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsmt251.oracle.com (rcsmt251.oracle.com [148.87.90.196]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id kA4J5xSI022351 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:05:59 -0700 Original-Received: from dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw2-141-144-73-83.vpn.oracle.com by rcsmt250.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2169804301162667050; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:04:10 -0700 Original-To: "Emacs-Devel" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:61793 Archived-At: For consideration after the release - There is now a lot of stuff going on in the mode-line. How about adding a menu for all of that stuff to the menu-bar? This menu would not replace mode-line clicking, but it would be an alternative, much as the Minibuf menu-bar menu is an alternative. Some of the mode-line functionality is not too obvious (different mouse buttons on different parts of the mode-line). A menu for all of it could also act as a learning aid (e.g. by showing the mode-line key sequences). Because menu-bar space is limited, and this would be only a minor convenience, it could be added to an existing menu, say Tools, as a submenu. (Mode-Line functions are as much tools as Games are.) I hear someone saying, "What next, a vertical-line menu? A fringe menu?" Perhaps, if there is a fair amount of functionality involved for them. Why not give a menu to each major UI component? Perhaps collect them all in the same (sub)menu. Just a thought.