From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Van L Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31683: emacs-lisp-intro.texi - opportunity to link eintr to elisp Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 23:30:35 +1000 Message-ID: References: <83bmcte7yr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527946148 20363 195.159.176.226 (2 Jun 2018 13:29:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 13:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 31683-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 02 15:29:04 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fP6ac-0005Ap-Ds for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 15:29:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59861 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP6cj-0002K2-Hz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:31:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35140) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP6cb-0002Ju-6c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP6cY-0005HA-1N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:31:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:50586) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP6cX-0005H6-UB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fP6cX-0004v7-M2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:31:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2018 13:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31683 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 31683-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D31683.152794624418882 (code D ref 31683); Sat, 02 Jun 2018 13:31:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31683-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2018 13:30:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58483 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fP6cG-0004uT-Ew for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:57203) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fP6cE-0004uJ-Kq for 31683-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:30:43 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 123.243.250.252 Original-Received: from epi.local (123-243-250-252.tpgi.com.au [123.243.250.252]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A1511C000D; Sat, 2 Jun 2018 15:30:39 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83bmcte7yr.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:146860 Archived-At: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 >> From: Van L >> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 20:39:49 +1000 >>=20 >> The footnote at line 2150 *indirectly* links to (elisp) Printed = Representation, which details what an expression is. >>=20 >> : 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 2150) learn how = to read it.@footnote{@code{(quote hello)} is an expansion of >=20 > I don't think I agree: the relation to expressions is too far-fetched > here. #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 1151) The printed = representation of both atoms and lists are called 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 1152) @dfn{symbolic = expressions} or, more concisely, @dfn{s-expressions}. 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 1153) The word = @dfn{expression} by itself can refer to either the printed 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 1154) representation, = or to the atom or list as it is held internally in the 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 1155) computer. = Often, people use the term @dfn{expression} 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 1156) = indiscriminately. (Also, in many texts, the word @dfn{form} is used 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 1157) as a synonym for = expression.) b8d4c8d0e93 doc/lispref/objects.texi (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 = 95) In other languages, an expression is text; it has no other form. = In b8d4c8d0e93 doc/lispref/objects.texi (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 = 96) Lisp, an expression is primarily a Lisp object and only secondarily = the b8d4c8d0e93 doc/lispref/objects.texi (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 = 97) text that is the object's read syntax. Often there is no need to b8d4c8d0e93 doc/lispref/objects.texi (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 = 98) emphasize this distinction, but you must keep it in the back of your b8d4c8d0e93 doc/lispref/objects.texi (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 = 99) mind, or you will occasionally be very confused. #+END_EXAMPLE Anyway. I find the above two snippets useful to link. >> (I will re-open this bug number for future opportunities to link = eintr, elisp after it is closed.) >=20 > Please don't, as each issue should be a separate bug report. I won=E2=80=99t.