From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: line-line-move-visual: was line motion problem Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:24:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <18557.63556.231489.523637@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <5F62534C-D5CE-4364-8F73-E1AE0D61B4E2@gmail.com> <87abghlqs2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87hcap3ct7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mykg84aj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--286791909; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216391135 32679 80.91.229.12 (18 Jul 2008 14:25:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:25:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , raman@users.sourceforge.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 18 16:26:20 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KJquK-0003Ut-4r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:26:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43565 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJqtR-0003it-6G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:25:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KJqtI-0003eJ-VK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:25:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KJqtG-0003Zy-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:25:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44794 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJqtG-0003Zf-A3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:24:58 -0400 Original-Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.251]:46110) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KJqtF-0003bg-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:24:58 -0400 Original-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c38so262991ana.84 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:24:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=fEJigWarYCxbx8WnvSZIZY67qB2djXD2BiUqXDPC02A=; b=u6g7OluNo/PLNXz4+Z/IXMioXXJ3+Nd6xc4T1Xxd9nw70bA+KJ4cvb+EUFlmLIBoGn 2wc19mHBicpstjT2A1i3SAPxyS0W2UzzUp9RW6b3TIGj7PpVNNixFUeADPoH8Qc0+MEB FmJk6KQU/UwF0VDQDf6Tu/QWWMwD0GAqnsSRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=s5C8neCvwyppbv+c4qCrevG8O5X1CufsyufEI4ZEE991QhJ67EYbkL/cdZ3jAnUGLp 2Rf899sXrr0BCadV3lIQUtPwjlJ5uA2/KG2yD/NLyH0UBZVMNAh8msQ1lFE4o23RinL8 tSYNxm7FLYHj1J5PWpK3heXF90hlvDWdtig0o= Original-Received: by 10.100.110.15 with SMTP id i15mr124934anc.130.1216391096450; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from CMU-276608.WV.CC.CMU.EDU ( [128.237.234.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d21sm2908600and.0.2008.07.18.07.24.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:24:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100939 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-7--286791909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 18 Jul 2008, at 10:16, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Also, what about dealing with fringe continuation glyphs? I >> understand >> that some people want them, even in visual-line-mode, but I think >> many >> won't want them, so it would be good if there were an easy setting >> that >> would cause visual-line-mode suppress them. > > I don't know how many people actually want them in visual-line-mode > (I'd like a fringe item at a hard newline, but until this is > implemented the next best thing is a display-table element for \n). We could leave the continuation glyphs, but make them less conspicuous. To mark hard newlines, try the code below. I suggest to include this. (defface blank-newline '((((class color) (background dark)) (:foreground "lightgrey" :bold nil)) (((class color) (background light)) ( :foreground "lightgrey" :bold nil)) (t (:bold nil :underline t))) "Face used to visualize NEWLINE char mapping. See `blank-display-mappings'." :group 'blank) ;; 2230 = \x8B6 (defvar show-newlines-newline-code (vector (make-glyph-code 2230 'blank-newline) 10)) (define-minor-mode show-newlines-mode "Mark newlines in current buffer" :group 'convenience (unless buffer-display-table (setq buffer-display-table (or standard-display-table (make- display-table)))) (if show-newlines-mode (aset buffer-display-table 10 show-newlines-newline-code) (aset buffer-display-table 10 nil))) (define-minor-mode global-show-newlines-mode "Mark newlines in all buffers" :group 'convenience :global t (unless standard-display-table (setq standard-display-table (make-display-table))) (if global-show-newlines-mode (aset standard-display-table 10 show-newlines-newline-code) (aset standard-display-table 10 nil)) (dolist (buffer (buffer-list)) (with-current-buffer buffer (if buffer-display-table (show-newlines-mode (if global-show-newlines-mode 1 -1)))))) (define-key-after menu-bar-showhide-menu [show-newlines-mode] (menu-bar-make-mm-toggle global-show-newlines-mode "Show Newlines" "Show hard newlines") 'highlight-paren-mode) --Apple-Mail-7--286791909 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIFxDCCAn0w ggHmoAMCAQICEEfSZyInpN9bVdFPsdICbiIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3MTIwOTIzMDM0OFoXDTA4MTIwODIzMDM0 OFowYjEQMA4GA1UEBBMHUmVpdHRlcjEOMAwGA1UEKhMFRGF2aWQxFjAUBgNVBAMTDURhdmlkIFJl aXR0ZXIxJjAkBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWF2RhdmlkLnJlaXR0ZXJAZ21haWwuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDIS4kZGULD+CxprkxDnEccAnZ2GQQxfn55aiAPoy5kJ+uLhelaZP4p lgx3Vq8xYK1bjsLepGYp8qzVlHsyQPb6OfvRzrUXHxlJrHME0+Lblx37PBLxGDxc5W8qfZFJpej8 Dk3LUMga8laR9CRghbALoTV3UThUSMqk1cVwTY99KQIDAQABozQwMjAiBgNVHREEGzAZgRdkYXZp ZC5yZWl0dGVyQGdtYWlsLmNvbTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAKU8XIS6 R/R3Hg6ae5p0i4iUJURq+sDVMX9RGB3Ge5V8oKKglIQGaY03leem65pqICL6mdgX/Px21JoaKVAA 8XITLFVEFHL6BfZ/eePnzNi93rnaNe7hLUwLdGztdYmqN8zF0DOCybL1M1JDB3cTr0XwHJwxziSf oEeENGNETykjMIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx FTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3 dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEk MCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJz b25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1OVow YjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAq BgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEB AQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31W/Iadr1/DDph8r9RzgHU 5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTX p6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8C AQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFs RnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2 YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aU nX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3hYWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5 jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQGls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAo8wggKLAgEB MHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4x LDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhBH0mciJ6TfW1XR T7HSAm4iMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgggFvMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcN AQkFMQ8XDTA4MDcxODE0MjQ1M1owIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFJDM/E0W9AzXZqL3iQxgHwidxBAQ MIGFBgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxeDB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3Vs dGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWlu ZyBDQQIQR9JnIiek31tV0U+x0gJuIjCBhwYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxeKB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpB MSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUg UGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQR9JnIiek31tV0U+x0gJuIjANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQEFAASBgE70zu33QJP49uxR3Dw+8QooMqC+qOnDKD/WCnRSDG4rLUBKXNRjwqCAXB6mU74Skraf jJUI/f90bhSFRfeNp/nqFrIVNDznChPPH3HDZiy57bhvdJMtdPhZAaSfEFLg2xrv9yw/O0Dv/3gK pF6dk0GtQo85utf8C5Oc78+vOQxDAAAAAAAA --Apple-Mail-7--286791909--