From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9877: 24.0.90; `report-emacs-bug' is even more broken now Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:43:39 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319661869 955 80.91.229.12 (26 Oct 2011 20:44:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9877@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 26 22:44:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJAKm-0002no-C4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:44:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51674 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJAKl-0004TB-Sg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:44:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJAKi-0004Sv-1h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:44:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJAKg-000643-Pk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:44:20 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:56806) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJAKg-00063u-O9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:44:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJAMM-0006KQ-BJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:46:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9877 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9877-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9877.131966194224295 (code B ref 9877); Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9877) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2011 20:45:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJAM1-0006Jo-Gd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:45:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJALy-0006Ja-4r for 9877@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:45:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p9QKhkH6010751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:43:46 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9QKhiqN007047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:43:45 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt115.oracle.com (abhmt115.oracle.com [141.146.116.67]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p9QKhdan005530; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:43:39 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:43:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcyUC3Z3Bajyxe2DRRS8WnKeBM+b5QAEwJVA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4EA87103.0041,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:46:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:53179 Archived-At: > Please please please pretty please stop bitching about it > because there is nothing we can do about it. If it weren't for such bug reports you never would have addressed any of the problems with this that you've tried to tackle so far. We'd still be stuck with Lars's original bass ackwards questionaire from Hell. That's quite clear from the fact (yes) that it took several raisings of the question over a period of more than a year, those complaints/reports being separated by long periods of waiting for some progress. If you focus more on users and the quality of the product you'll have a better attitude toward and appreciation of "bitching" by users.