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From: "Ludwig, Mark" <ludwig.mark@siemens.com>
To: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Dialog from emacsclientw.exe must be dismissed (was RE: Best practices for launching Emacs on Windows 7/8)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:35:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BC5672F8AD4C054BAF167C9801500D1ABCB58FE6@USSLMMBX003.net.plm.eds.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAeL0STT02wkCDerzMqpJkXSKjoW1GNYKa2CQ8iXNi3EhT7Btg@mail.gmail.com>

> From: Juanma Barranquero, Thursday, June 27, 2013 3:50 PM
> 
> User expectatives for a console program and a GUI one are quite different.

Sure.

There is no "GUI" version on Unix.

I actually don't agree that emacsclientw is a proper "GUI program."  I
suppose you'll take the technical view that it is because it's a
"Windows-mode" not a "console-mode" program, but for a user, it
certainly isn't interactive in any /meaningful/ way.  Popping up
output-only dialogs and making a user click OK does not a GUI program
make.

This emacsclientw variant exists solely on Windows.  Why?  I assume
because the alternative is worse!  The console-mode version
(emacsclient) is even more annoying because Windows pops up a console
to invoke emacsclient every time.  In that configuration, the same
error message goes to the console and then the console window
disappears.  It all happens as a flash.

So, what about emacsclient Unix?  What happens in X in this scenario?
I stopped using Unix as my desktop so long ago that I have no idea
what "launching from a GUI" looks like any more.  Where does the error
message from emacsclient go?  Does the user normally get a chance to
even see it?  What I recall was that launching was in the background
so that stdout/stderr usually went to /dev/null (effectively) ... but
perhaps things have changed.

Cheers,
Mark


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-27 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19 18:17 Dialog from emacsclientw.exe must be dismissed (was RE: Best practices for launching Emacs on Windows 7/8) Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-26 18:47 ` Richard Copley
2013-06-26 23:11   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27  0:04     ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27  0:34       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 13:29         ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 14:01           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 14:28             ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 14:51               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 15:34                 ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 20:50                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 21:27                     ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 22:14                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 21:35                     ` Ludwig, Mark [this message]
2013-06-27 22:17                       ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.2633.1372368937.22516.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-06-28  7:38                       ` Jason Rumney
2013-06-28 17:55                         ` Richard Copley
2013-06-28 18:31                           ` Richard Copley
2013-06-29  3:52                             ` Ludwig, Mark

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