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From: "Ludwig, Mark" <ludwig.mark@siemens.com>
To: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Dialog from emacsclientw.exe must be dismissed (was RE: Best practices for launching Emacs on Windows 7/8)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:28:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BC5672F8AD4C054BAF167C9801500D1ABCB5899D@USSLMMBX003.net.plm.eds.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAeL0SQQC_oFZ=HS7X-M_PHXXHnYwjCFnpdM+u+y3oyFiCpsMw@mail.gmail.com>

> From: Juanma Barranquero, Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:02 AM
> 
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ludwig, Mark <ludwig.mark@siemens.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > That said, the pop-up error really shouldn't need dismissal by the
> > user when there is either ALTERNATE_EDITOR or --alternate-editor.  In
> > that configuration, it's not clear that the error should even be
> > reported -- except perhaps as a warning (to inform the user why the
> > alternate editor was launched).
> 
> The error says that emacsclientw found a server file for a process it
> could not connect. That is useful. 

I don't agree.  Why is it useful to make the user click OK (the only
available button) /before/ launching the alternate editor?

> For example, emacs could still be
> running, just not attending to server connections for some reason.
> It's better to give the user the information *and* let him decide (by
> clicking on OK, or doing something else) how to fix things.

Let's say you're correct that there is a running Emacs that's not
responding, so the dialog information is reporting an "interesting"
situation.  I claim that it /still/ doesn't matter, because
emacsclientw has made its only attempt to connect to the
supposedly-running server (which failed) and all the user can do is
click OK, after which emacsclientw will launch the alternate editor
(if any).  If there were a "Retry" button, that would be /very/different.

What else do you think I can do before clicking OK?  As far as
investigating what's wrong with a running Emacs, it doesn't matter
whether I look before or after clicking OK, because emacsclientw has
done whatever it's going to do to the running Emacs, and the alternate
editor (in my case) will be a separate instance of Emacs.

Thanks,
Mark


  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-27 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19 18:17 Dialog from emacsclientw.exe must be dismissed (was RE: Best practices for launching Emacs on Windows 7/8) Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-26 18:47 ` Richard Copley
2013-06-26 23:11   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27  0:04     ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27  0:34       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 13:29         ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 14:01           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 14:28             ` Ludwig, Mark [this message]
2013-06-27 14:51               ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 15:34                 ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 20:50                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 21:27                     ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 22:14                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 21:35                     ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 22:17                       ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.2633.1372368937.22516.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-06-28  7:38                       ` Jason Rumney
2013-06-28 17:55                         ` Richard Copley
2013-06-28 18:31                           ` Richard Copley
2013-06-29  3:52                             ` Ludwig, Mark

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