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From: Van L <van@scratch.space>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 31614@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#31614: Off Topic (was: bug#31614)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 21:05:35 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BC17175C-8CDE-47AF-9C21-E48F41A31334@scratch.space> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7390947A-8234-4D5C-8738-307C4606C038@gnu.org>


> Eli Zaretskii writes:
> 
> You are saying that the Texinfo manual uses ASCII quotes, and therefore
> the opening and closing quotes are identical?  If so, the place to
> complain about that is the Texinfo mailing list.

The point of TeX is beautiful typesetting.

I don’t want to create another bug report for why

  (+ 2 2) 

gives the ``complication’’ by default

  4 (#o4, #x4, ?\C-d)

and not the simple

  4

Emacs 26.1-rc1 (NS Port) and Emacs 25.3 (Mac Port) both produce

  4 (#o4, #x4, ?\C-d)

In the below, it is not possible to set 
`eval-expression-print-maximum-character’ to `nil’ to 
achieve the simple `4’ result. 
`M-x customize’ wants a number for 26.1-rc1 and the default is 127. 

  #+NAME: simple.el.gz
  #+BEGIN_SRC elisp n=1535
    If the resulting value is an integer, and CHAR-PRINT-LIMIT is
    non-nil (interactively, unless given a positive prefix argument)
    it will be printed in several additional formats (octal,
    hexadecimal, and character).  The character format is only used
    if the value is below CHAR-PRINT-LIMIT (interactively, if the
    prefix argument is -1 or the value is below
    `eval-expression-print-maximum-character').

  #+END_SRC

  #+NAME: eval-expression-print-maximum-character
  #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
    eval-expression-print-maximum-character is a variable defined in ‘simple.el’.
    Its value is 127

    Documentation:
    The largest integer that will be displayed as a character.
    This affects printing by ‘eval-expression’ (via
    ‘eval-expression-print-format’).

    You can customize this variable.

    This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in
    version 26.1 of Emacs.

  #+END_EXAMPLE

The backtrace diff I submitted in another bug needs undoing 
because I believe the simple `4' result is better to keep in the earlier lisp intro.

Details about ``complications’’ is bulk the lisp intro can separate into a different book. 






  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-28 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-28  3:56 bug#31614: (texinfo) dfn - the double quotes around ``deleting'' are inconsistent with (eintr) Complications ``variables'' Van L
2018-05-28  8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-28 11:05   ` Van L [this message]
2018-05-28 11:30     ` bug#31614: Off Topic Noam Postavsky
2018-05-28 13:04       ` Van L
2018-05-28 15:18       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-28 15:37         ` Noam Postavsky
2018-05-28 15:15     ` bug#31614: Off Topic (was: bug#31614) Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-28 10:52 ` bug#31614: (texinfo) dfn - the double quotes around ``deleting'' are inconsistent with (eintr) Complications ``variables'' Andreas Schwab
2018-05-28 16:17   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 10:06     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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