From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8904: 24.0.50; describe `describe-prefix-bindings' in Emacs manual Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:40:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310747280 26612 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2011 16:28:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8904@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" , "'Andreas Schwab'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 15 18:27:56 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhlF5-0003aY-6Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:27:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37824 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhlF3-0004FN-M5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:27:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58093) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkVl-0007BN-3c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:41:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkVj-0002B7-Ei for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:41:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60969) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkVj-0002Ay-3X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:41:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkVi-0006Ny-3K; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:41:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8904 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8904-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8904.131074445324531 (code B ref 8904); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:41:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8904) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 15:40:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkVY-0006Nc-Lh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:40:52 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkVV-0006NN-FU for 8904@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:40:50 -0400 Original-Received: from rtcsinet21.oracle.com (rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6FFeegm003622 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:40:42 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by rtcsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6FFed85003665 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:40:39 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6FFeXUF022578; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:40:33 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.34.212) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:40:33 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxDA58XVPQKkNkKSCuLfoRgjGC5ZwAARIgg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4E205F7B.0135:SCFSTAT5015188, ss=1, re=-4.000, fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:41:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49165 Archived-At: > I was not enlightened. Lars, you need better doc for this command. ;-) Seriously. To enlighten yourself and thus help in coming up with that doc: 1. See what the Elisp manual says, as the bug report indicated. 2. Consult the code, in help.el. In #2 you will see this: ;; Make C-h after a prefix, when not specifically bound, ;; run describe-prefix-bindings. (setq prefix-help-command 'describe-prefix-bindings) Maybe this will help you see why code comments are not substitutes for doc strings. Had appropriate info been available to you interactively via `C-h f describe-prefix-bindings' you would not have needed to ask others or consult the code. Now try it: C-x C-h C-x RET C-h M-s C-h ... Another lesson learned: Not every command is designed to work best with `M-x'.