From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: face for non-ASCII characters Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:23:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8739linpib.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86815A0AB7354FA3874096E7B5FA2F08@us.oracle.com> <87tydym9fs.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lizam8zt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878vv7imqp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k4erh6q3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o5uie42.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y635dll9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r58vbj7o.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwpba03q.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o5rqr5z.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxjjpal4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwpabgdv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1303478620 19672 80.91.229.12 (22 Apr 2011 13:23:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ted Zlatanov , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 22 15:23:36 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QDGKe-0000e8-1h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:23:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46543 helo=lists2.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QDGKd-0000qa-9r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:23:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QDGKb-0000qU-El for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:23:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QDGKa-0004jg-Fv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:23:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ey0-f169.google.com ([209.85.215.169]:46310) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QDGKa-0004jc-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:23:32 -0400 Original-Received: by eyd9 with SMTP id 9so196188eyd.0 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 06:23:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NY+zuJKx123JQAsDfGcFsj8/BogxpSgSiIJxJw076J8=; b=MND+1798ZSgjZu5s3C/RRvAQejxk5SLYEjuBV0+5jVMa3D+hA47HcgrHLzvAn8qHke hBNVKwOcdGXvnnopvNzwwrjXBOZllQcotQSmncC8PNt5sy7EEYDiD1dZ5ETCk7Piqb9j sLYQBbUi5ljJZoyQfDwqXTZtN1oPJyocV0wYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cruW1JUwVQyxED+kP1T4d153cMq1ija+PIdHCcx668rSAbNJuRar9zP+Y1JyeVpb+C FbfgBOmHwgmpbb58KuDj+9v+tKUNgTF64NSW5NrdjE8AGk8IrP03V6Msr1DEnh0mtQFz quN05Xe3083xxVWL9r4atAIh9t+nDdMg5ts0c= Original-Received: by 10.213.109.199 with SMTP id k7mr225811ebp.134.1303478611176; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 06:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.213.23.8 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 06:23:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fwpabgdv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.215.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138642 Archived-At: On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull w= rote: > Lennart Borgman writes: > > =C2=A0> > As I said, you should make the opportunistic/dynamic loading pr= oposal > =C2=A0> > and maybe it will be accepted. =C2=A0While it seems to me like = a bad idea, > =C2=A0> > it's entirely possible it turns out to be good! =C2=A0We won't = know until > =C2=A0> > it's discussed directly. > =C2=A0> > =C2=A0> I do not have time to discuss it much now, but please see my > =C2=A0> explanations above. > > It was discussed at the time that ELPA became officially sanctioned by > the Emacs project, and Richard's reaction then was almost identical to > Ted's now, except Richard left less room for changing his mind on the > issue. I believe RMS rejection was not so much because of instability but insecurity and that the user should have control. It was after that I added the possibility to review and reject the opportunistic install, just before the library is going to be installed.