From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraphrespectively Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:17:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <7C30351A-8431-44CA-BBEF-06AC0E509EBC@mit.edu> <3F8DEC90BBA94708866F7CC70C4D5067@us.oracle.com> <394801A4-1E9A-4570-8B49-5B007F3F8866@mit.edu> <87bp0ecvrd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302441467 1534 80.91.229.12 (10 Apr 2011 13:17:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Leo , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 10 15:17:43 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8uWL-0006XA-Sv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:17:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40748 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q8uWL-0004nB-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:17:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33012 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q8uWG-0004my-2j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:17:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8uWF-0001jK-0p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:17:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]:41741) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8uWE-0001iW-Nl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:17:34 -0400 Original-Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1503886ewy.0 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x2qX+UY4NFdKiWKvvkwyvthV4Gr96F8DAHk2zx+TGe4=; b=Yt8OHSBja/PZBCOFcrGCtYBOwZ5P6xXMWHkzcU9+DorUp22cYFzseHdhzkvGUSGsTH ZlA3J2lnSUS9R3y57g+pUuiaNfllF14hD4KX817qmJChyJgXVd79JugLni/3huWKxMpm AR3dUaHBpFJeUa91uix1Kz3/2YgF6Q3WCtf9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sK3gmIBQ+JjdedQksw4ejUoD0omazM69cY9M7idOn98jRYe5K5uLhxIELVJJKD672S lcJSoMN4+OPFThYppcUGoR/VOPEqr+anTG9PA6YNifTL9SbZdGhx4fQe5GCsybPDygw4 0cJJ6KGmBom/dUyuOL/LrzF0z0HytdlUuzlq0= Original-Received: by 10.213.96.71 with SMTP id g7mr646643ebn.69.1302441453114; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.213.9.196 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 06:17:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87bp0ecvrd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.215.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138351 Archived-At: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Leo writes: > > =C2=A0> On the other hand, advertising M-n/p as global keys for users to > =C2=A0> customise might be better than provide default bindings. > > A big -1 on that. =C2=A0C-c is reserved to users. =C2=A0That's n= ot very > many, but OTOH it's a very clear, and by now fairly well-known, and > very simple, rule. =C2=A0Advertising random keys as available just becaus= e > they're not currently bound would be confusing and constraining. > > I'm a small :-) -1 on the present proposal to bind M-n/M-p to > paragraph movement because they already have bindings in the default > global keymap. =C2=A0I am aware that M-} is not easy to type on many > keyboards, and binding M-n to forward-paragraph would be a great > customization for people who prefer those layouts. =C2=A0OTOH, there may = be > other reasonable bindings (eg, I bind a command that rotates the tabs, > as I often have 2-3 times as many related buffers as can reasonably > fit on the tabs). +1