From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please don't refer to Emacs as "open source" Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:54:45 +0200 Message-ID: References: <010001cc29eb$fc806cb0$f5814610$@cs.ua.edu> <87vcw9ksdd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87hb7rlmjt.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <81d3if8gpc.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308138960 24341 80.91.229.12 (15 Jun 2011 11:56:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:56:00 +0000 (UTC) To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 15 13:55:56 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWohP-00043t-TU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:55:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35000 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWohP-0005VZ-4b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:55:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58779) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWoh3-0005V0-Bj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:55:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWogz-0001w9-NS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:55:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:35510) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWogx-0001vb-8f; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:55:27 -0400 Original-Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4so217471pzk.0 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:55:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pVHoo2C37tbt22w5Qz2Zg5XzX1UPtKCmklLQW8lcWCY=; b=t7wbcLbJKq2BhZZ7xsnnqsOUryn79g9+6xqkprs/G9Xt2SpByBTZ5UvDXYHmtw7oFD Yq+besJ9TPuExhmUf/pW6oxz9t27hi8wJA8QU0LX13KNLbmA/G3Bf/2w9smGAkq2XbTW t3FPOB8d5c8eqrfFJ75FOZw1mfm7ePLyCN4b8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k2vacLCM9GTyS0cQCeg0SIXPFlojqXqXixPnD/4g2YOuH9AP9qb7NNLz6QGiFUoBBl oA04GijtFYL6WWrRHwD8LvQLKEYn7EBTE2WZCcVamNt1vJstSxllUpQowfamUhBgrAYg Ul1wFJNzge0t9ObSZdlic6rjUSxfybkogoBdY= Original-Received: by 10.142.10.18 with SMTP id 18mr64920wfj.37.1308138925344; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.47.4 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:54:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <81d3if8gpc.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140491 Archived-At: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 13:41, Jambunathan K wrote= : > ps: I am trying to understand where all this hatred to Richard's > advocacy comes from. Atleast in emacs-devel it sounds like an outright > civil war. I don't think there's any hatred to Richard's advocacy. But at the moment he talks of "our collaboration" he's making the mistake of believing that everyone who collaborates in free software does so motivated by the goals of the free software movement. It's quite possible to collaborate with Emacs (for example) just because you want a better Emacs for your own selfish reasons. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma