From: PJ Weisberg <pjweisberg@gmail.com>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emacs as a desktop environment
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 08:36:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTikgaMe4D_eFO2hjyM=X94XTKG_Hxw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ipsyl5ey.fsf@lifelogs.com>
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2011 09:45:18 -0700 PJ Weisberg <pjweisberg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> PW> On Wednesday, May 25, 2011, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 May 2011 09:31:24 +0200 joakim@verona.se wrote:
> TN> [load indicators] No need! OK, "urxvt -e top" works, too.
>>>
> TN> [date, weather, market indicators] No need!
>>>
> TN> [workspace indicator] All in the mind. Or, "work? what's that?
> TN> space? nice place!".
>>>
>>> I disagree, those are necessary.
>
> PW> Most of those are a waste of space, except for date/time, which is essential.
>
> Let's put it this way: I will implement some indicators since several
> people have said that's a good thing, and it's not a lot of work. Then
> you and everyone else can choose not to use them. Everyone's happy that
> way, especially me, since I don't have to argue about it.
Oh, you never have to argue about anything if you don't want to. ;-)
My point was really that "smaller, without all the unnecessary
features" isn't a very useful goal, because for every feature you cut,
there's a group of people who consider it essential. Because those
features are not meant for people who use the computer the way you use
the computer, it's hard for you to guess how important they are.
Once you start cutting out useless features, you're heading towards a
desktop that's useful only to you.
--
-PJ
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-26 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-25 1:05 Emacs as a desktop environment Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-25 7:31 ` joakim
[not found] ` <87ei3n1dph.fsf@mid.gehheimdienst.de>
2011-05-25 10:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-25 16:45 ` PJ Weisberg
2011-05-25 16:33 ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-25 17:44 ` Tom Tromey
2011-05-25 19:26 ` Evans Winner
2011-05-25 21:58 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-25 22:15 ` David Kastrup
2011-05-25 22:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-25 23:04 ` Christophe Poncy
2011-05-26 0:18 ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-26 0:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-26 5:45 ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-05-27 1:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-28 0:09 ` Nix
2011-05-28 10:25 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-28 10:44 ` Nix
2011-05-28 16:14 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-05-30 8:34 ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-25 22:08 ` Nix
2011-05-25 23:57 ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-26 7:27 ` joakim
2011-05-26 8:33 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-05-26 14:16 ` BBDB in the GNU ELPA (was: Emacs as a desktop environment) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26 23:12 ` BBDB in the GNU ELPA Glenn Morris
2011-05-27 3:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-27 12:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-28 14:57 ` Bernt Hansen
2011-05-30 12:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 18:08 ` Glenn Morris
2011-05-30 19:27 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-05-30 19:42 ` Glenn Morris
2011-05-31 9:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-25 23:35 ` Emacs as a desktop environment Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26 1:33 ` Tom Tromey
2011-05-26 15:36 ` PJ Weisberg [this message]
2011-05-26 16:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26 0:58 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2011-05-26 15:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26 16:38 ` joakim
2011-05-27 12:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-28 8:10 ` joakim
2011-05-28 17:49 ` just-the-text Emacs frame (was: Emacs as a desktop environment) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-28 20:01 ` Emacs24 Mobile (was: Re: just-the-text Emacs frame (was: Emacs as a desktop environment)) Mohsen BANAN
2011-05-29 1:44 ` Emacs24 Mobile Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-29 2:00 ` T.V. Raman
2011-05-30 17:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-28 20:18 ` just-the-text Emacs frame Thierry Volpiatto
2011-05-28 22:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-29 10:12 ` joakim
2011-06-01 18:01 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 2:43 ` Leo
2011-06-02 4:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-02 13:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 15:43 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-02 17:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 20:19 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-02 21:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 15:09 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-03 20:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 22:31 ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-02 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-02 18:53 ` GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties (was: just-the-text Emacs frame) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-02 20:59 ` GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 15:21 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 16:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-03 17:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 17:39 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 18:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 20:58 ` sending X client messages from Emacs (was: GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 21:27 ` sending X client messages from Emacs Chong Yidong
2011-06-10 21:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 2:40 ` just-the-text Emacs frame Leo
2011-06-03 11:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 11:55 ` Leo
2011-06-03 15:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-04 3:51 ` Leo
2011-06-04 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-03 9:24 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-03 11:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 13:16 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-03 15:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 15:27 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-03 16:30 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 17:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 18:06 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 19:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-06 8:38 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-06 9:23 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-06 9:34 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-06 10:00 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-06 20:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 8:25 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-10 16:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 17:35 ` T.V. Raman
2011-06-10 18:57 ` chad
2011-06-10 20:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-11 8:04 ` Philipp Haselwarter
2011-06-11 10:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 15:54 ` org-src.el begin_src/end_src fontification may have been broken recently (was: just-the-text Emacs frame) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 18:02 ` org-src.el begin_src/end_src fontification may have been broken recently Stefan Monnier
2011-06-07 18:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 18:05 ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-07 19:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 0:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 16:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 19:51 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-06-10 23:00 ` Bastien
2011-06-11 10:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-11 10:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-11 18:16 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-12 22:24 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 8:05 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-06-13 14:38 ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-13 15:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-14 9:41 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-14 16:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-15 8:12 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-15 14:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-20 13:32 ` Bastien
2011-06-06 8:32 ` just-the-text Emacs frame Julien Danjou
2011-06-06 9:22 ` Jan Djärv
2011-05-26 17:50 ` Emacs as a desktop environment Tom Tromey
2011-06-13 17:36 ` taking over global key events (X, NS, W32) (was: Emacs as a desktop environment) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 18:41 ` taking over global key events (X, NS, W32) joakim
2011-06-13 19:22 ` Mathias Dahl
2011-06-13 20:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
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