From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ben Key Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should Emacs provide a uuid function? Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:16:17 -0500 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55552d202687c04a1d8d7c3 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1303852621 28914 80.91.229.12 (26 Apr 2011 21:17:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:17:01 +0000 (UTC) To: Eli Zaretskii , Emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 26 23:16:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QEpci-00025s-T2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:16:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40614 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEpci-0006zL-Df for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:16:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57335) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEpcg-0006zG-3i for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:16:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEpcf-0003iW-7h for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:16:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:60651) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QEpcd-0003iG-W6; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:16:40 -0400 Original-Received: by bwz17 with SMTP id 17so1124944bwz.0 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:16:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=3abmImI2YH4CtKpzhBvO5D+2ipvGhG35vsgI0/cYU8Y=; b=BzwqwfbPAkuoEnlPq8gRE2vJi4su5ycZ6mSWjK+QBeLrUeMZ3PPprvld0L+gl87yo3 NH4KESIz3+4Kg/fppt4N1aXG4e9mmz5x2fN6KhOhBJNuVZi/Ouju3A4szmK7ZkPf3c7T KKdkafD/QzAQalMFI4TJZ6yLyxrVLuUohz4bY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=BDNWt7a0W5eDbiQefbkKJGCOquVMHb68zdPLrQqA9xjCmNVDj0MPxDrWQrs7qRxXKQ WEVD/Jlul/7EJthl+BALcY4sy5QVSJOhDNWT+ARwL2xbcwFk8W2CSEEUVRA25oTsFft8 c3J3CG+jZXJjmlnPWA0pNzHco27Z7VXSDtfvk= Original-Received: by 10.205.83.199 with SMTP id ah7mr142591bkc.146.1303852599109; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.204.126.85 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:16:17 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.214.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138814 Archived-At: --bcaec55552d202687c04a1d8d7c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Eli Zaretskii writes: > The gist of it is that it's now part of the SDK, so no worries > there. I have two comments. First, we should *NEVER* expect our users to have to install an enormous, developer only, package like the Microsoft SDK just to use Emacs. It may be reasonable to expect them to install it to *BUILD*Emacs but not to *USE* Emacs. Second, as I documented in an earlier message, the Microsoft SDK uuidgen tool is *NOT* a drop in replacement for the GNU/Linux uuidgen tool. For these two reasons, we *CANNOT* depend on the Microsoft SDK uuidgen tool. --bcaec55552d202687c04a1d8d7c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eli Zaretskii writes:

> The gist of it is that i= t's now part of the SDK, so no worries
> there.

I have two= comments.=A0 First, we should NEVER expect our users to have= to install an enormous, developer only, package like the Microsoft SDK jus= t to use Emacs.=A0 It may be reasonable to expect them to install it to = BUILD Emacs but not to USE Emacs.

Second, as I documented in an earlier message, the Microsoft SDK uuidge= n tool is NOT a drop in replacement for the GNU/Linux uuidgen= tool.

For these two reasons, we CANNOT depend on the = Microsoft SDK uuidgen tool.

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