From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" <eliz@gnu.org>, "'Tassilo Horn'" <tsdh@gnu.org>,
"'Alan Mackenzie'" <acm@muc.de>
Cc: aidalgol@no8wireless.co.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Fontless Info
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:58:31 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BACC1EBCF9B742B392291479DE15885C@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r4kcp95y.fsf@gnu.org>
> This happens because font-lock-mode gets turned off in Info buffers.
> Type "M-x font-lock-mode RET", and all the niceties are back. (You
> could guess that this is the problem if you'd go to the un-decorated
> text and type "M-x describe-text-properties RET" there.)
The same thing is true for the symptoms of bug #13751:
font locking gets turned off in Emacs Lisp buffers if you do
(add-hook 'emacs-lisp-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock)
and in Dired buffers if you use Dired+.
In all such cases, `M-x font-lock-mode' turns it back on, but it should never
have been turned off.
> The reason seems to be the changes in revision 111794: their result is
> that, after Info mode is turned on and turns on font-lock, font-lock
> is turned off again by something called
> global-font-lock-mode-check-buffers.
But the definition of `global-font-lock-mode-check-buffers' has not changed
since before this regression was introduced, AFAICT. Nothing in its file,
font-core.el, was changed.
It is the definition of `define-globalized-minor-mode' that was changed,
radically it seems.
`C-h f global-font-lock-mode-check-buffers' shows no doc string but tells us it
is a compiled function in `font-core.el'. There is however no explicit
definition of it in that file. It is created by `define-globalized-minor-mode'.
Our help system sends the user on a wild goose chase here. S?he has no hope of
reorientation and finding a way out of the swamp. You can't get there from
here.
Emacs seems to be little-by-little losing its character of being
self-documenting, by the use more and more of macros that generate functions
without doc. And by the use more and more of `defstruct' without providing doc
for accessor etc. functions. Dommage.
At the very least (and no, it would by no means be a substitute for documenting
the resulting objects themselves), the doc for `define-globalized-minor-mode'
should mention the objects that it creates, such as function
`MODE-check-buffers'.
> Since the voodoo of easy-mmode is beyond me, I'll let others fix this.
Hear, hear. "Easy", indeed. Easy for those defining things, perhaps. Hard on
Emacs users. Dommage.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-19 17:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-19 8:01 Fontless Info Aidan Gauland
2013-02-19 10:16 ` Tassilo Horn
2013-02-19 15:00 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-19 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-19 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-19 17:58 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2013-02-19 18:48 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-19 20:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-19 21:05 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-19 21:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-19 21:25 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-20 11:08 ` Michael Heerdegen
2013-02-19 21:14 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-19 23:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-02-20 4:02 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-19 23:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-02-20 10:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-02-23 4:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-02-24 18:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-02-26 5:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-02-19 16:58 ` Glenn Morris
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