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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" <eliz@gnu.org>,
	"'Juanma Barranquero'" <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: cschol2112@googlemail.com, mathias.dahl@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Emacs Windows barebin distribution
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:37:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BA252546AC7142A6A4E691ACF276CBD9@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83wqxizvg0.fsf@gnu.org>

> One important thing that the critics seem to forget, or don't know, is
> that the barebin distribution simply didn't work, for quite some time
> now.  So if we were to revert that decision, we would have to find a
> way to make it work first.

What critics?  Has anyone actually criticized or opposed discontinuing the
barebin distribution?  Straw man argument.

I spoke out against your argument for _how you know_ that users don't use
barebins.  I made it clear that I do not use barebins myself, and I do not in
any way oppose discontinuing their distribution.

It's the decision process that I spoke to: deciding what users want/need/use
based on emacs-devel list activity, instead of on a user poll or the proposed
analysis of download stats.

If you want to know what users use, ask them.
Or look directly at what they download.
If.  And I hope you do.

(That said, I do not take the position that whatever users might think they want
should determine the direction that Emacs Dev should go.  That would be tailism.
But there is a difference between (a) leading instead of following and (b)
ignoring those you are trying to lead.)




  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-18 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-15 14:28 Emacs Windows barebin distribution Christoph Scholtes
2012-04-15 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-16 22:48   ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-16 22:54     ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-17  7:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-17  8:27       ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-17  8:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-18 12:52   ` Mathias Dahl
2012-11-18 15:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-18 15:50       ` Drew Adams
2012-11-18 16:20         ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-18 17:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-18 17:37             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2012-11-18 17:55               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-18 18:22                 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-18 19:00                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-18 17:22           ` Drew Adams
2012-11-18 17:29             ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-18 17:39               ` Drew Adams
2012-11-18 17:45                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-18 18:22                   ` Drew Adams
2012-11-19  4:02               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-11-18 17:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 13:58         ` Jason Rumney
2012-11-21  4:23           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-11-18 19:56       ` Mathias Dahl
2012-11-18 20:22         ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-18 20:45           ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-18 21:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-18 21:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-15 16:43 ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-16  0:02   ` Drew Adams

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