From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12579: 24.1; Emacs 24.1 / 24.2 (daily) crashes Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:48:16 -0700 Message-ID: References: <80vcep2v3z.fsf@somewhere.org> <83txu87vlp.fsf@gnu.org> <80391srlog.fsf@somewhere.org> <83lifj7tlg.fsf@gnu.org> <80obkfrdrk.fsf@somewhere.org> <83haq77oar.fsf@gnu.org> <9406B35D2F4F4A12B64463151C5EC515@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1349632183 3609 80.91.229.3 (7 Oct 2012 17:49:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12579@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Fabrice Niessen' To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 07 19:49:49 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TKuz6-0000UF-SC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:49:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57712 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKuz1-0007i4-0n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 13:49:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKuyy-0007hr-Hn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 13:49:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKuyx-0003DR-85 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 13:49:40 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50028) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKuyx-0003DN-4T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 13:49:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TKuzJ-0001S0-MP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 13:50:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12579 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12579-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12579.13496321455507 (code B ref 12579); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12579) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2012 17:49:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60279 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TKuyN-0001Ql-Qk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 13:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:22760) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TKuyL-0001QD-QC for 12579@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 13:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q97HmU2P006588 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:48:31 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q97HmTdh013882 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:48:30 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt112.oracle.com (abhmt112.oracle.com [141.146.116.64]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q97HmSvQ017238; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:48:28 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:48:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2ksV7I7g3yuaFCSZucMjcjmPEqfAAATOzw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:65346 Archived-At: > > FWIW, I too get crashes frequently with Emacs 24 (.1, .2, > > and dev versions) on MS Windows. I even get them sometimes > > when I just click the Windows `X' box in > > the upper right of a frame, to close it. > > How frequently? I'm sorry I can't be much help here. I would say it crashes pretty much each time I use it - and I don't use it for long at a time. Generally, I use it (and also the latest dev version) now to test software that I develop using Emacs 23.4 (or older). If it did not crash so much then I would do that development using 24.2 or even the latest dev version. The crashes I get seem to happen randomly. I have not been able to associate them with anything particular that I or Emacs is doing at the time. As I mentioned, I've even had a few crashes occur when I just clicked a frame `X' to close the frame (an ordinary frame - nothing unusual). > Both the OP and you, Drew, are using the binary distributions from > alpha.gnu.org. I do not get crashes, frequent or otherwise, unless > there's a specific problem (like the 64-bit changes the other day). Yes. If you are not using those binaries then perhaps that is a relevant difference. > Perhaps something in the build process, compiler version, compilation > options...? It's hard to pinpoint any connection between both > problems without backtraces, though. Admittedly, there is not much to go on. Hopefully there will be more reports, with more useful information. One thing that seems interesting (but it doesn't necessarily mean anything) is that there seem (for me) to be the same frequency of crashes with 24.2 and a dev version (I don't really use 24.1 much at all, but IIRC it was the same story). There has been a lot of development since 24.1, including in the C code, but perhaps (?) some of the problems I'm seeing are the same since 24.1. Dunno.