From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ergus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: isearch region or thing at point. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236261 Archived-At: ------E1OGYX7KTWBQ3TANKW53QNPHVIAEYL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again=2E I have been thinking about an alternative=2E If we redefine isearch thing = at point as region or thing at point=2E Meaning that if a region is active = use it, else then try thing/symbol around point=2E=2E=2E and we reuse the k= ey bindings=2E Is it a bad idea that conflicts with something? On May 7, 2019 4:56:47 AM GMT+02:00, Drew Adams wrote: >> >> > It would be good to "standardize" bindings - say >> >> > reserve `M-w' (e=2Eg=2E on a prefix key) for the >> >> > "copy-region" (or similar) action >> >> >> >> I remember you had a key to grab the region into the minibuffer=2E >> >> This is what Ergus wants=2E >> > >> > I don't think this thread is about grabbing the region >> > text into the minibuffer=2E Ergus grabs it into Isearch >> > as the search string=2E >> > >> > And I don't think I have a command that grabs the >> > region into the minibuffer=2E >>=20 >> Maybe the same key, e=2Eg=2E 'M-=2E' could be used to grab >> the region into the search string, into the query-replace >> prompt, or into the minibuffer? > >Maybe=2E > >If you meant `M-=2E' then maybe you were thinking of my >binding of `M-=2E' in Icicles=2E It does pull buffer text >into the minibuffer (appends it there, so you can use it >to insert multiple things into the same minibuffer)=2E > >It really has nothing to do with completion (hence with >most of the rest of Icicles) - you can use it with any >minibuffer, whether reading with or without completion=2E > >My `M-=2E' does not pick up the text of the active region, >however (it could be made to, but it doesn't do that now)=2E > >Instead, it picks up existing buffer text starting at >point (either or both directions)=2E You can pick up >multiple consecutive occurrences of a given kind of >thing, or you can pick up a given kind of thing, >choosing the kind by cycling among THING choices=2E > >The doc is here: > >https://www=2Eemacswiki=2Eorg/emacs/Icicles_-_Inserting_Text_from_Cursor > >Perhaps it can serve as food for thought=2E It would be >simple to integrate the possibility of picking up the >region text when the region is active, as an alternative=2E --=20 Enviado desde mi dispositivo Android con K-9 Mail=2E Por favor, disculpa m= i brevedad=2E ------E1OGYX7KTWBQ3TANKW53QNPHVIAEYL Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again=2E

I have been thinking about an a= lternative=2E If we redefine isearch thing at point as region or thing at p= oint=2E Meaning that if a region is active use it, else then try thing/symb= ol around point=2E=2E=2E and we reuse the key bindings=2E Is it a bad idea = that conflicts with something?

On May 7, = 2019 4:56:47 AM GMT+02:00, Drew Adams <drew=2Eadams@oracle=2Ecom> wro= te:
It wou=
ld be good to "standardize" bindings - say
reserve `M-w' (e=2Eg=2E on a =
prefix key) for the
"copy-region" (or similar) action
 I remember you had a key to grab the region into the minibuffer=2E
 T=
his is what Ergus wants=2E

 I don't think this thread i=
s about grabbing the region
 text into the minibuffer=2E  Ergus grabs it=
 into Isearch
 as the search string=2E

 And I don't think I have =
a command that grabs the
 region into the minibuffer=2E
=

Maybe the same key, e=2Eg=2E 'M-=2E' could be used to grab
the regio=
n into the search string, into the query-replace
prompt, or into the min=
ibuffer?

Maybe=2E

If you meant `M-=2E' then mayb= e you were thinking of my
binding of `M-=2E' in Icicles=2E It does pull= buffer text
into the minibuffer (appends it there, so you can use itto insert multiple things into the same minibuffer)=2E

It really ha= s nothing to do with completion (hence with
most of the rest of Icicles)= - you can use it with any
minibuffer, whether reading with or without c= ompletion=2E

My `M-=2E' does not pick up the text of the active regi= on,
however (it could be made to, but it doesn't do that now)=2E

= Instead, it picks up existing buffer text starting at
point (either or b= oth directions)=2E You can pick up
multiple consecutive occurrences of = a given kind of
thing, or you can pick up a given kind of thing,
choo= sing the kind by cycling among THING choices=2E

The doc is here:
=
https://www=2Eemacswiki=2Eorg/emacs/Icicles_-_Inserting_Text_= from_Cursor

Perhaps it can serve as food for thought=2E It woul= d be
simple to integrate the possibility of picking up the
region tex= t when the region is active, as an alternative=2E


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