From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14000: 24.3.50; electric-pair-post-self-insert-function does not handle nestedparentheses Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 07:20:42 -0700 Message-ID: References: <951A6DF7-E25B-40A1-8197-7825F508EE43@tzi.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364307715 12572 80.91.229.3 (26 Mar 2013 14:21:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14000@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Carsten Bormann'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 26 15:22:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UKUlR-0005gS-Gk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:22:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39707 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKUl3-0007AP-Jy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42181) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKUky-00076v-TT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:21:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKUkx-00077o-5t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:21:44 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42137) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKUkx-00077k-1f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:21:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKUnB-0003sp-Mt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:24:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14000 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14000-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14000.136430778814848 (code B ref 14000); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:24:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14000) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2013 14:23:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46246 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKUmJ-0003rQ-NY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:23:08 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:26874) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKUmI-0003rJ-77 for 14000@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:23:06 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r2QEKjj4000466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:20:45 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2QEKhJN008703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:20:44 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt114.oracle.com (abhmt114.oracle.com [141.146.116.66]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r2QEKgnI001146; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:20:43 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 07:20:42 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <951A6DF7-E25B-40A1-8197-7825F508EE43@tzi.org> Thread-Index: Ac4qJlj2DsFXHczJQKeNW1K4QQ6L7gABYtkQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:72914 Archived-At: > > Some people do, but my guess would be that they are a minority. > > Well, the majority is then going to keep electric-pair-mode > off, and will not be concerned by this bugfix? Yes, my reply was only wrt the lines I quoted - nothing about the bug itself. Mine was an OT comment on the notion that Lispers generally prefer electric pairing (I doubt it). And it's only a guess on my part wrt the majority. And it really doesn't matter whether something is majority or minority. I just wanted to respond to the assumption that if you are an Emacs Lisper then "you want to add them in pairs, always." That's too strong, IMO. > My bug report was about the behavior when it's on. > Apparently then, someone already has made the decision that > they want the parentheses in pairs. Yes. > Wanting them in pairs, but not when they happen to be nested > touching on the left, is hard to follow for me. > But, as Stefan points out, there may indeed be people who > actually want that, hence a preference setting within > electric-pair-mode may be the right thing here. A preference setting would be good, IMO. Emacs is (should be), above _all_ else, easily user-extensible and customizable. By all means, make it easy to choose, and make users aware of the easy-to-make choices.