From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: I can't use Alt+Shift Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:43:41 +0100 Message-ID: References: <104171DB-3A57-41E3-8F71-F7F443D930C6@Web.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1326811451 6275 80.91.229.12 (17 Jan 2012 14:44:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Daniel Sousa Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 17 15:44:07 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RnAGa-0006XH-UW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:44:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnAGa-00009l-H5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:44:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42194) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnAGS-00007j-Az for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:44:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnAGI-0008MD-QI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:43:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de ([217.72.192.221]:39458) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RnAGI-0008Lu-LY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:43:46 -0500 Original-Received: from moweb002.kundenserver.de (moweb002.kundenserver.de [172.19.20.108]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022A01A9010B7 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:43:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from peter-dyballas-macbook-pro.fritz.box ([88.153.242.186]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LpOOj-1SGTGK2MYH-00fd8N; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:43:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:zUZfxq7n8Sz7vxFoplDRooiGJFu424LniwfACxu/rr1 MLXcfukus7j+iKDOESAq5E0NNaGFhgbbiTVi78k0uieUFD3JVy kQX+Zu1oIthOFHDgNsOiQfyXPIfa5oG98gRsJ9Ao12PFBFJDbe zALU3wuSi5km6D1tD1ENmqJvB65Xlpm3r+XxiJuw4Qti8G6uiR AfVhOYlhA3m3VwE7cNJpw== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-Received-From: 217.72.192.221 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:83520 Archived-At: Am 17.1.2012 um 13:36 schrieb Daniel Sousa: > When I run C-h k and press that key combination, emacs simply ignores = it > and doesn't even say that it is undefined. Correct! In every software terminal emulation GNU Emacs is the guest of = this software product. When its host is not able to receive or = distinguish the signals about the keys being pressed (or released), then = the host cannot send anything to its guest. (You might try to teach your = terminal emulation a bit more key events.) So GNU Emacs does not receive = anything. To check what it might receive you can press, for example in = *scratch* buffer, C-q and then some desired key combination. By this = means you record anything the host programme sends to its guest GNU = Emacs. You can also type C-h l, which shows a recording of what you = typed. Or actually of what GNU Emacs received from your keyboard work... -- Greetings Pete Without vi there is only GNU Emacs