From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29478: [Patch] bug#29478: 26.0.90; `C-h k' followed by mouse clicks no longer shows down event Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 07:41:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20171128221036.GC14868@ACM> <83o9ni3l3i.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmji2xye.fsf@gnu.org> <83tvwzubez.fsf@gnu.org> <20171222220549.GC8072@ACM> <833741lr0t.fsf@gnu.org> <20171223111726.GA6618@ACM> <20171223210407.GC6618@ACM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514094016 18742 195.159.176.226 (24 Dec 2017 05:40:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 05:40:16 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: 29478@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Stefan Monnier ,Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 24 06:40:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eSz19-0004Pb-4z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 24 Dec 2017 00:41:30 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52488) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eSz2A-0007mG-MM; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 00:41:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.12.140.168] (port=57216 helo=[10.164.85.87]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eSz29-0006bS-Of; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 00:41:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141443 Archived-At: On December 24, 2017 6:55:52 AM GMT+02:00, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Out of all these key sequences, some code somewhere has to select > the > > one for which the help message will be displayed=2E >=20 > I think this is a mistake=2E We should give the answer for all the > events > we've seen=2E E=2Eg=2E it may be important for the user to know that > mouse-1 > is not bound or that down-mouse-1 is not bound=2E First, giving an answer for more than one event is impossible for "C-h c";= not without a complete redesign of how we present the results=2E Until ve= ry recently, we would show only the first event, which is useless for 90% o= f mouse clicks, since very few commands are bound to down-events=2E This h= as been a source of constant annoyance for me for years, and now is finally= solved=2E So this is some progress=2E For "C-h k", we probably should indeed show all the events, but the previo= us solution to show the down-event first was problematic here as well, as i= t showed the much less important event first, and a user who is in a hurry = might not pay attention to the rest=2E In most cases, there are 2 or less events to show, so Alan's patch that te= lls users how to get help on the down-event is a good stopgap, IMO=2E In g= eneral, we should probably redesign how these multiple events are described= , but that's a job for master, not for the release branch=2E