From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 22:26:30 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5610207A.2000300@harpegolden.net> <83fv1r3gzp.fsf@gnu.org> <83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org> <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <831td3t62e.fsf@gnu.org> <561A6199.1020901@cumego.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.0 \(3094\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444570019 616 80.91.229.3 (11 Oct 2015 13:26:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:26:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 15:26:55 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlGeM-0001Ly-DD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 15:26:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48359 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlGeL-0004a0-Fw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:26:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34949) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlGe9-0004Zf-I7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:26:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlGe4-0005Ub-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:26:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233]:35782) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlGe4-0005UO-DY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:26:36 -0400 Original-Received: by pabve7 with SMTP id ve7so71553580pab.2 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 06:26:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=oC7+bUJqxA8Ird3fGztVS/LXP4WJLm0djuoR6z/xMx8=; b=TPKYS4FmS2mer3VzMSkuZ4QBfa7arFZQKHx9EsYo9kwDhegXohwkCrnhnrq6rYstht HSLPM0mVEt2hr5v/MyXpPdnqi+PYqJhaohWCZ5IPL4qrhphJMnoxtjzXJ/K6gmGIJbj1 MrxnJJqfeCzaQLHgUMBRWTPuK8ZvLelvCYgc3QBbizgs7LuYJUBkoMMqXsLlGIN5XR4S TNvaSR+A47rG3J7Hb6WC4FpnRf1KUNq8y0xTOzD0px1Apa27U+J8yVzYPT7xmYvwFCXv 0RH8sdPKI7kKtXVwgMXYPX9tqiW+SIA5xvEz0yf9kUATzeWgpJIcaHe/Ia2bwRn+us65 fLaw== X-Received: by 10.66.251.35 with SMTP id zh3mr28389290pac.121.1444569995256; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 06:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.24.54] (pl1488.nas981.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp. [124.154.41.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id of1sm12904235pbc.11.2015.10.11.06.26.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Oct 2015 06:26:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <561A6199.1020901@cumego.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3094) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191223 Archived-At: > On Oct 11, 2015, at 22:18, Przemys=C5=82aw Wojnowski = wrote: >=20 > W dniu 10.10.2015 o 11:40, Eli Zaretskii pisze: >> Come to think of that, even coming up with a list of such features >> would be real progress, as I don't think we have that, or ever had. >=20 > I can "step forward and work" conceptually here. :-) >=20 > One can start with a question: > What is purpose of an IDE (except for making many for a company behind = it)? > The simple answer is: to help programmers do their work productively. Productivity for code *writers* could be defined by how many correct = code strings they output in a given amount of time. Anything that 1) increase the volume 2) increase the correctness of the strings increases productivity. Jean-Christophe Helary=20=