From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why emacs have not native language menu Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:27:10 +0900 Message-ID: References: <46A49912.9030203@luxdo.jp> <87hcnujljg.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185290891 25082 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2007 15:28:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:28:11 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs Mailing List Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 24 17:28:10 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IDMJ0-0000g2-5H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:28:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDMIz-0001zb-Mq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:28:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IDMID-0001Yd-Uu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:27:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IDMIC-0001WO-FV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:27:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDMIC-0001WA-6l for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:27:20 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp9.tiki.ne.jp ([218.40.30.106]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IDMIB-0007D9-Dm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:27:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.11.4] (pl497.nas934.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp [210.136.197.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp9.tiki.ne.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l6OFREOJ098545 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:27:15 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 5.3-5.4 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:45976 Archived-At: On 25 juil. 07, at 00:21, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 24.07.2007 um 13:12 schrieb Jean-Christophe Helary: > >> Do you actually use localized applications or do you just suppose >> that localizers are less good at doing their jobs then coders at >> doing theirs ? > > I see quite often terrible German localisations. Terrible use of > language, independent of any rules, independent of orthography, too. When you see terrible code, do you conclude that coding is bad ? I just finished working on a proofreading session for the next version of OpenOffice with translators, proofreaders, coordinators, checkers. When professionals volunteer in the field they are specialists of, free software rips all the benefits. When professionals volunteer in fields they are not specialist of, they need to be mentored by specialists so that free software can benefit from their activity. Jean-Christophe Helary