From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chad Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:40:54 -0800 Message-ID: References: <55772486-9439-4587-B8BD-2015AC9EE051@mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299627328 13453 80.91.229.12 (8 Mar 2011 23:35:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs development discussions To: Dimitri Fontaine Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 00:35:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Px6Qy-0005s9-4r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 00:35:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33818 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Px6CY-00051h-Uk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:20:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45224 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Px60z-0008Cj-7C for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:08:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px5aO-0004Ft-9l for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 17:41:01 -0500 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu ([18.9.25.14]:54818) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px5aO-0004Fh-5O for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 17:41:00 -0500 X-AuditID: 1209190e-b7b3bae000000a71-26-4d76b07b1981 Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.43]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id 2A.1E.02673.B70B67D4; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:40:59 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id p28Mewt3007325; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:40:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [10.0.0.136] ([12.132.232.170]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id p28MetoM009154 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:40:57 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 18.9.25.14 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:136925 Archived-At: On Mar 8, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Dimitri Fontaine wrote: > You are pretty much describing how el-get already works. Yep; that's why I suggested it to Ted back in the original thread. For = emacs 24, I'd like to see the other parts added (the questions and = configuration, basically). Package.el provides most of the building = blocks for this already, which is why I suggested to Ted that he could = perhaps usefully combine the two. >> This could also ask any required questions up >> front. This seems easier (for the user) and more capable (for the >> developer). Why the opposition? Emacs already contains facilities = that >> modify the user's startup files for them, and has for decades. >=20 > I hate it when any other software edit my user files, that's the whole > point of `user-load-dir'. I guess I can see your complaint, since I also don't like software = munging my .emacs file, but I find it hard to believe that there are = many (any?) users who need your simplified method and yet don't want = code messing with .emacs automatically. Take a look at the = documentation for custom-file and see if that doesn't address your = concern. *Chad