From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12787: Re: bug#12787: Toolbar regression from Emacs 23 to Emacs24 -- Save As and Help no longer available Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:27:01 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8698659.1494633.1351877357323.JavaMail.root@vms170027> <30308840.1509334.1351887345968.JavaMail.root@vms170027> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1351888100 23455 80.91.229.3 (2 Nov 2012 20:28:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12787@debbugs.gnu.org To: , Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 02 21:28:29 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TUNqr-00076a-Jv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 21:28:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34009 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TUNqj-0006TE-1g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:28:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59112) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TUNqf-0006Ro-Cl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:28:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TUNqe-0006tN-3D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:28:13 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TUNqe-0006tH-0A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:28:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUNtN-00007L-SD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:31:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12787 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12787-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12787.1351888203352 (code B ref 12787); Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:31:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12787) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2012 20:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46105 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUNsQ-00005c-Ph for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:41931) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUNsO-0008WT-J8 for 12787@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:30:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qA2KR8Xe023494 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:27:09 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA2KR8oP025415 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:27:08 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qA2KR7vO014235; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 15:27:07 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.179.176) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:27:07 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <30308840.1509334.1351887345968.JavaMail.root@vms170027> Thread-Index: Ac25NutCFPrraX0IT2+QeXevQpk3mQAAMotQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:66362 Archived-At: > I don't know about other users, but I look to the NEWS to > explain changes. It was self-evident that the change was > made, but not why the change was made. IMO, the NEWS should cover user-visible changes, and that includes changes like this one. OK, let's assume this omission was not intentional and it just fell through the cracks. Too bad.