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From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com>
To: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: macOS support
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:49:31 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B211E971-480F-4F6F-80A0-0E6AD2DA376D@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC=50j8y=_B0q4M_Bxxrdg2H0+r8a2DP5MnAd_7HUtAsz7WaSg@mail.gmail.com>

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> On Mar 26, 2018, at 14:41, Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm not a big fan of Apple either, but do use it (primarily because employers are more willing to support/allow Apple than Linux and I just can't do windows, so lesser of two evils really). 
> 
> However, I have upgraded my old mac mini to High Sierra with no problems. I can't remember when I actually purchased it, but from vague memory, it originally came with mountain lion, so that would be 10.8
> 
> I believe 10.12/10.13 are supposed to be supported on all mac mini, imac and macbooks from 2009 models onwards.  My macmini is slow, but it was always slow. I do run Emacs on it.

The good thing about Apple hardware is that it is very robust. I still have 15+ years old PPC machines that work flawlessly. If there is a need to draw a line in the sand somewhere it should either be the OS version that first supported intel/32bits *only* or the one that first supported intel/64bits *only*. I'm not sure which is which though.

(@Tim: if you need some speed, think of changing your hard disk to an SSD disk, my 2011 MBP has rejuvenated a way that I never though possible thank to that.)

Jean-Christophe 

> 
> Tim
> 
> P.S. I also will be putting Debian on my Mini at the end of this year. 
> 
> 
> On 26 March 2018 at 13:14, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca <mailto:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>> wrote:
> > Generally speaking Emacs and other GNU projects shouldn't bother supporting
> > platforms that are no longer supported by their original issuers.
> 
> While I agree with this, by and large, there can be good reasons not to
> follow this rule when we disagree with the issuers.
> 
> > For example, starting in 2014 we no longer needed to bother to support
> > IRIX, because SGI no longer supported IRIX.
> 
> This a good example: I think SGI made a pretty good effort of supporting
> IRIX for as long as it could make sense, so I'm fine with dropping IRIX
> support at the same time as SGI.
> 
> > As I understand it, Apple itself supports only the last three or four macOS
> > versions.
> 
> Note that the issue is not really software support but hardware support:
> Apple is pretty aggressive about dropping support for old hardware in
> its newer OSes.  They could make OSX 10.11 work on my old macmini but
> decided it would be counterproductive for their business.


Jean-Christophe Helary
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http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune



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  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-26  5:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-13 16:18 bug#30800: 26.0.91; unknown crash on macos Aaron Jensen
2018-03-13 16:36 ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-20 23:39   ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-21  6:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-21 16:25       ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-21 17:00         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-21 17:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-21 17:31             ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-21 18:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-21 18:31                 ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-21 18:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-21 19:19                     ` Alan Third
2018-03-21 19:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-21 20:12                         ` Alan Third
2018-03-22  5:40                           ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-22  7:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-22 15:39                               ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-22 15:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-23  1:49                                   ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-23  8:16                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-23 19:52                                   ` Alan Third
2018-03-23 20:57                                     ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-23 21:47                                       ` macOS support (was: bug#30800: 26.0.91; unknown crash on macos) Alan Third
2018-03-24  6:35                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-24  7:18                                           ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-24 10:27                                             ` Alan Third
2018-03-24 14:52                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-25 20:08                                           ` David Reitter
2018-03-25 21:24                                             ` Tim Cross
2018-03-25 22:31                                               ` macOS support Stefan Monnier
2018-03-26  1:34                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-26  2:14                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-26  5:41                                                     ` Tim Cross
2018-03-26  5:49                                                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary [this message]
2018-03-26 23:07                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-24  7:20                                     ` bug#30800: 26.0.91; unknown crash on macos Aaron Jensen
2018-03-24 10:29                                       ` Alan Third
2018-03-24 14:54                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-24 16:18                                           ` Alan Third
2018-03-24 17:48                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-25 19:17                                               ` Alan Third
2018-03-24 10:49                                     ` Charles A. Roelli
2018-03-24 14:12                                       ` Alan Third
2018-03-25 20:14                                         ` Charles A. Roelli
2018-03-26 18:37                                           ` Alan Third
2018-03-26 23:03                                             ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-30 11:37                                               ` Alan Third
2018-03-30 11:57                                                 ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-22  5:35                         ` Aaron Jensen
2018-03-22  7:16                           ` Eli Zaretskii

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