From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 15:39:21 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87lhmlncb1.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205193643.GB5067@thyrsus.com> <87tx19rd1b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141205215138.GF7784@thyrsus.com> <54823617.4000406@cs.ucla.edu> <83k325195l.fsf@gnu.org> <5482D94B.2070102@cs.ucla.edu> <5484FF31.5010808@cs.ucla.edu> <5485FC59.5030700@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418082004 1370 80.91.229.3 (8 Dec 2014 23:40:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:40:04 +0000 (UTC) To: Stefan Monnier , emacs Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 00:39:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7uH-0000Aj-9V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 00:39:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36696 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7uG-0003DP-TO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:39:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43447) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7tr-000392-AA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:39:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7tl-0007XZ-9F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:39:31 -0500 Original-Received: from p3plsmtpa12-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([68.178.252.236]:56368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7tl-0007Wb-4u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:39:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [172.16.6.114] ([50.194.51.50]) by p3plsmtpa12-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id RBfN1p00L14zK7W01BfPXP; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:39:24 -0700 X-Sender: chad@lonesharkgames.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 68.178.252.236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179497 Archived-At: > On 08 Dec 2014, at 13:41, Stefan Monnier = wrote: >=20 >>> I think I understand why they don't want to fix the processing = speed. >>> But we should still push them to provide workarounds. "Separate >>> compilation" would solve this problem >> It might, yes. But that sounds like more work than switching input = formats >> would be, >=20 > Why? Are you saying this would require work on our side? I'd assume > this work would mostly be on the Texinfo-maintainers side. Haven't the Texinfo maintainers already repeatedly said "yes, we know the new version is very slow. We can't find anyone to do the necessary work otherwise.", thus forcing the choice between speed and unicode support? ~Chad