From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: delete-selection-mode Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:16:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com><201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu><87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org><20100317143519.GB4381@muc.de><87vdcui6oh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp><20100318101223.GB2704@muc.de> <87ocil3edy.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net><87fx3xzokg.fsf@lola.goethe.zz><7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C0A74396C60@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <87tysdy65l.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268934740 11178 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2010 17:52:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:52:20 +0000 (UTC) To: "'David Kastrup'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 18 18:52:15 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsJtG-0004be-Hf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:52:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54691 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsJtF-0003Xa-Vc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:52:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsJMS-00052P-9S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:18:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35757 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsJMQ-00050b-RE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:18:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsJMP-0006bL-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:18:18 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet12.oracle.com ([148.87.113.124]:29795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsJMP-0006bA-AX; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:18:17 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o2IHIE6q010132 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:18:16 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2IHIAHO004351; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:18:10 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt010.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 97431661268932617; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:16:57 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:16:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87tysdy65l.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Thread-Index: AcrGs8A6670312E2S+SZhcCFLSpV6QABNltA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4BA26056.0138:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122187 Archived-At: > delete-selection-mode interferes with the _Emacs_ way > of dealing with marks. Your own way of using Emacs is not THE EMACS WAY. Emacs is bigger and better than that. With d-s-mode turned on you can still use the mark purely navigationally, whenever you want. Just deactivate the region (or don't activate it). Emacs gives users the best of both worlds: an active region (with type-to-replace) and an inactive region. And by default the region is (should be) active, which is what most people expect. Que demande le peuple ? > I'm not fine with having delete-selection-mode for by-products of > transient marks occuring during the normal operation of Emacs. So turn off d-s-mode in your .emacs. Or turn off t-m-mode, since it doesn't sound like you use the active region for anything anyway. > my vote is for turning off transient-mark-mode again So I wasn't wrong in my guess. Out of the closet at last. That's what this is all about, isn't it?