From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: ndame Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39668: 26.2; timer-list and timer-idle-list are undocumented in the Elisp manual Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 18:45:56 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: References: <83sgj7lp5o.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1696_1412700598.1582051556033" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="16191"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "39668@debbugs.gnu.org" <39668@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 18 19:53:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j47ze-000447-Jt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 19:53:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40180 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j47zd-0002lv-HM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:53:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j47zT-0002hj-8C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:53:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j47zS-0004y0-78 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:53:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35307) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j47zS-0004xW-46 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:53:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j47zS-00018L-1r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:53:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: ndame Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 18:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39668 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 39668-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39668.15820519484314 (code B ref 39668); Tue, 18 Feb 2020 18:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 39668) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2020 18:52:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41280 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j47yt-00017W-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:52:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fmfe22.onbox.hu ([46.107.16.227]:46399 helo=web-out.onbox.hu) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j47ys-00017H-MC for 39668@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:52:27 -0500 X-fm-smtp-source: yes Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [178.164.166.72]) by web-out.onbox.hu (Postfix) with SMTP id 48MVMm2l57zbx6; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 19:52:20 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83sgj7lp5o.fsf@gnu.org> X-AccountId: 57978162 X-Originating-Ip: 178.164.166.72 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrjeekgdduudelucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpucfhtffggffotefknfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepfffhvffkjghfufggtghisegrtdersgdttddunecuhfhrohhmpehnuggrmhgvuceovghmrggtshhushgvrhesfhhrvggvmhgrihhlrdhhuheqnecukfhppedujeekrdduieegrdduieeirdejvdenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopedpihhnvghtpedujeekrdduieegrdduieeirdejvddpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegvmhgrtghsuhhsvghrsehfrhgvvghmrghilhdrhhhupdhrtghpthhtohepvghlihiisehgnhhurdhorhhg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:176204 Archived-At: ------=_Part_1696_1412700598.1582051556033 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > These variables are internal implementation details of how timers work > in Emacs. The ELisp manual documents the facilities available for > Lisp programs, I needed to access the list of the active timers from an elisp program.=C2= =A0 Since timers are available from elisp, the list of timers should be=C2=A0 available too, like the list of buffers, etc. I was suprised that I did not find this in the manual. Since timers are part of the public elisp api, I expect timer lists also to be part of the public api. ------=_Part_1696_1412700598.1582051556033 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > These variables are internal implementation details of how timers work
> in Emacs. The ELisp manual documents the facilities available for
> Lisp programs,

I needed to access the list of the active timers from an elisp program. 
Since timers are available from elisp, the list of timers should be 
available too, like the list of buffers, etc.

I was suprised that I did not find this in the manual. Since timers are
part of the public elisp api, I expect timer lists also to be part of the
public api. ------=_Part_1696_1412700598.1582051556033--