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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	juri@linkov.net, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36767: 26.1; request: add more quick keys to the *Help* buffer
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2021 23:48:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM9PR09MB4977D322E37D7848355BA9CD96A69@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c84abc46-6f64-e30f-674b-d15ad8240135@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sun, 26 Sep 2021 19:51:28 +0200")

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

>> I agree, but I don't like to see hardcoded *Help* string all over the place. I
>> don't think it will change in near future, if ever, but since I have used this
>> in several places, and plan to suggest some other commands for help buffer, I
>> think we can abstract it even further into something like this:
>
> The help buffer is "*Help*" - look at the code of `help-buffer'.

Yes, I know, I have seen how (help-buffer) works :).

>                                                                   The
> problem with using `help-buffer' is that it creates *Help* if it didn't
> exist before.  Do you really want your function to do that?

Yes, the rationale was that for people who use built-in help, the buffer will be
created anyway. The new object will not be a waste, it will be used next time
buffer is created. I didn't thought that somone would see it as a problem.

I was also affraid that something somewhere, would throw me into
degubber. didn't want to accidentally end up in debugger which woudl be a
nuissance in this context. That felt like a punishment for a user who pressed a
button by accident :-).

But I have tested a bit with 'get-buffer' and it just returns silently nil, and
sent you a suggestion for better astraction anyway, the functions'help-window' and
macro 'with-help-buffer'. I haven't had time to code anything today though,
regarding the patch I'll see if I can sit a moment before I go to bed now.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-26 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-22 19:53 bug#36767: 26.1; request: add more quick keys to the *Help* buffer ndame
2019-07-22 20:49 ` Drew Adams
2019-07-28  0:10   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-06-15 18:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-17 20:34   ` Juri Linkov
2021-06-18  6:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-18  7:20       ` Robert Pluim
2021-06-18 10:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-18 14:21           ` bug#36767: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-06-18 14:32           ` Stephen Berman
2021-06-18 14:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-18 16:02               ` Stephen Berman
2021-06-18 18:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-19  9:08               ` martin rudalics
2021-06-19  9:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-20  9:21                   ` martin rudalics
2021-06-18 16:21             ` bug#36767: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-06-18 14:12         ` Drew Adams
2021-06-18 19:14       ` Juri Linkov
2021-06-18 19:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-19 23:15           ` Juri Linkov
     [not found]       ` <AM9PR09MB49779C8B93EFFB329EB8E5A596A29@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]         ` <83y27nvnb4.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <AM9PR09MB497767EDF180DE0C3EE15F4396A39@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]             ` <83ilyrvgda.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]               ` <AM9PR09MB497720FA603D3B7FC4D4739196A39@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
2021-09-23 20:54                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]                 ` <83h7ebv39d.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                   ` <AM9PR09MB49771D1ECD11701DEFB77C7A96A39@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]                     ` <838rznusle.fsf@gnu.org>
2021-09-24  7:16                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 15:31                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-24 16:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-24 19:36                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 19:39                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 19:57                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-25  6:09                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-25 14:41                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-25 14:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-25 16:22                                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-25 16:26                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-25 17:08                                         ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-25 17:20                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-25 20:15                                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26 21:52                                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26  9:11                                           ` martin rudalics
2021-09-26 16:11                                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26 16:54                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-26 21:51                                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26 22:38                                                   ` Drew Adams
2021-09-26 22:46                                                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26 17:51                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-09-26 21:48                                                 ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2021-09-27 11:07                                 ` Exec help commands from other buffer (was bug#36767: 26.1; request: add more quick keys to the *Help* buffer) Arthur Miller
2021-09-27 19:59                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 18:34                           ` [External] : Re: bug#36767: 26.1; request: add more quick keys to the *Help* buffer Drew Adams
2021-09-24 19:34                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 20:20                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-24 20:33                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-25 18:46                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-06-19 11:58     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-19 12:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-19 23:15       ` Juri Linkov
     [not found]   ` <AM9PR09MB4977DAFB86D88A4714C1C64196A29@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]     ` <87pmt0qomh.fsf@gnus.org>
     [not found]       ` <AM9PR09MB4977CCFA194C77F1ADF0015C96A29@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
2021-09-23 20:42         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-23 23:09           ` bug#36767: [External] : " Drew Adams
     [not found]       ` <AM9PR09MB49770845B0C1B7CBB331E68A96A39@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
2021-09-23 20:52         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-23 22:18           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-26  9:11           ` martin rudalics
2021-09-26  9:40             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-26  9:55             ` Eli Zaretskii

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