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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272791 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Arthur Miller >> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 05:12:25 +0200 >> Cc: Philip Kaludercic , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> After some search, yes seems like symlinks are not so great on Windows: >> >> https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2016/12/02/symlinks-windows-10/ >> >> Don't udnerstand why are symlinks such a big deal for them. > > They are deemed to be a security vulnerability in some quarters, > because they can potentially circumvent access rights. I understand they consider it a security issue, but I don't understand why. Couldn't they apply same rules to symlinked file access as if the access was direct? Bit I guess Microsoft has acquired quite clever people so they have their reasons. I don't think they removed symlinks just because, for no good reason. I would rather be interesting what elpa-admin.el does. As I looked it up today, there is a 2k lines file in elpa sources, I guess Stefan means that one? Is it going to become part of Emacs, or he just means that developers should use it develop packages, or why do you bring it up? I sincerely have never used it, so I wonder how does it relate to normal users who wish to manage their site-lisp with pacakge.el. Obviously from what Philip posted, and from what I see on Reddit and elsewhere, there is appeal in just cloning a git repo and bringing it into Emacs. I am not sure if it is the best practice, but I do understand the appeal and that is obviously what makes people prefer some other package managers. So is this elpa-admin.el soemthing that addresses that convenience/workflow or do you plan something else for package.el?