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From: arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	"tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de>,
	 "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Docs for &optional and &rest arguments together
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:28:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM0PR06MB6577B7DEE2DE5A00D2E3166E96D60@AM0PR06MB6577.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac2d2cf0-db77-45e3-bc13-489bfd8c8a4b@default>

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The CL link is not documentation, it is an essay, entire novel :-). But interestingly, that do not touch on that case either . I have glanced through though, maybe I am missing it.


-------- Originalmeddelande --------
Från: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Datum: 2020-12-31 17:48 (GMT+01:00)
Till: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Ämne: RE: Docs for &optional and &rest arguments together

> > I don't read it says both c and d are required
> > when &rest is also used.
>
> You just have to squint the other way .-)
> They are not "required". They are provided -- in the call. It's just
> that c is served first, d next, and all the rest (if any) goes to e:

If someone finds the Elisp doc about lambda lists,
I recommend consulting the Common Lisp doc (CLTL2)
about it.  Common Lisp lambda lists allow more stuff
(&keys, &aux etc.), but for the things that Elisp
has (&optional, &rest) the behavior is the same.

The language in CLTL2 is quite precise.  It too
merits being read carefully, but I think it spells
things out quite clearly.

This is the section about lambda lists, which covers
&optional and &rest:

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/clm/node64.html#SECTION00922000000000000000

With that, plus the Elisp doc, plus this thread,
I think things will become more clear.  HTH.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-31 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-29 13:26 Docs for &optional and &rest arguments together Arthur Miller
2020-12-29 15:10 ` Adam Porter
2020-12-29 17:06   ` arthur miller
2021-01-01 14:33   ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-30  3:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-30 12:19   ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-30 12:54     ` Yuri Khan
2020-12-31  4:43     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-31  7:55       ` arthur miller
2020-12-31 11:26         ` tomas
2020-12-31 16:45           ` Drew Adams
2020-12-31 17:04             ` Drew Adams
2020-12-31 17:28             ` arthur miller [this message]
2020-12-31 18:19               ` Drew Adams
2020-12-31 20:01                 ` arthur miller
2020-12-31 20:27                   ` Drew Adams
2020-12-31 17:08           ` arthur miller
2020-12-31 17:30             ` Daniel Brooks
2020-12-31 19:53               ` arthur miller
2020-12-31 19:40             ` tomas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-12-31 20:04 arthur miller
2020-12-31 20:35 ` tomas
2020-12-31 23:18   ` arthur miller

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