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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261426 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I can also udate "user" functions of package.el (package-list, >> package-refresh-contents etc) to check if package.el is initialized, and >> if not they could call package-initialize on behalf of user, so end users >> does not need to call pacakge-initialize themselves, neither in init >> file or interactively. As I see now, some of them already do so, some don't. > > Indeed some calls to `package-initialize` are probably still missing. > [ I don't know what you mean by `package-list`, OTOH. ] > Sometimes rather than add a call to it, it's better to rework the code > so it doesn't require `package-initialize` to run before, tho. > > E.g. I can't see why `package-refresh-contents` would need > `package-initialize` to run before it can do its job. I was just looking hastily through the list of autloaded interactive functions, but you are correct, it does not need it.