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How do you really imagin 'not-ignoring' something but never mentioning it? = Are you going to secretely at home study it in some way bet never telling a= nyone? In that case you are buildin g a stigma around it. Are you going to give it a nickname or speak in terms of "the thing we are = not supposed to talk about"? Or something similar? In that case you are wor= king against your own case, since you will be talking about it any way but = just giving it a different combination of sounds to name what you are speak= ing about. Otherwise how is it supposed to work in practice to not ignore something bu= t never not speak about it? I don't see the point. I don't think you have t= hought about implications of what you are proposing. ________________________________ Fr=E5n: Alfred M. Szmidt Skickat: den 8 januari 2021 18:22 Till: Dmitry Gutov Kopia: eliz@gnu.org ; bugs@gnu.support ; ar= thur.miller@live.com ; rms@gnu.org ; u= lm@gentoo.org ; emacs-tangents@gnu.org =C4mne: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el > If the goal of the GNU project is to eliminate non-free software, > why Eliminate it by ignoring it, I take it. Not mentioning a program isn't the same as ignoring its existance. You might also want to look into the origins of GNU. It has been like this since the GNU project began. --_000_AM0PR06MB65773DAE1B01704EA054A25496AC0AM0PR06MB6577eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
But why?

How do you really imagin 'not-ignoring' something but never mentioning it? = Are you going to secretely at home study it in some way bet never telling a= nyone? In that case you are buildin g a stigma around it.

Are you going to give it a nickname or speak in terms of "the thing we= are not supposed to talk about"? Or something similar? In that case y= ou are working against your own case, since you will be talking about it an= y way but just giving it a different combination of sounds to name what you are speaking about.

Otherwise how is it supposed to work in practice to not ignore something bu= t never not speak about it? I don't see the point. I don't think you have t= hought about implications of what you are proposing.
Fr=E5n: Alfred M. Szmidt &l= t;ams@gnu.org>
Skickat: den 8 januari 2021 18:22
Till: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Kopia: eliz@gnu.org <eliz@gnu.org>; bugs@gnu.support <bugs@= gnu.support>; arthur.miller@live.com <arthur.miller@live.com>; rms= @gnu.org <rms@gnu.org>; ulm@gentoo.org <ulm@gentoo.org>; emacs-= tangents@gnu.org <emacs-tangents@gnu.org>
=C4mne: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el
 
   > If the goal of the GNU project i= s to eliminate non-free software,
   > why

   Eliminate it by ignoring it, I take it.

Not mentioning a program isn't the same as ignoring its existance.

   You might also want to look into the origins of GNU.

It has been like this since the GNU project began.
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