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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248580 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> > FWIW, I really do NOT think that anyone who's >> > been involved with Emacs development has little >> > care for newbies or for making Emacs flexible and >> > easy to use. >> >> I do NOT think something like that either Drew, nor did >> I state that, just to be clear. Emacs is a prime example of >> flexibility, sure! I wrote, Emacs is super-adaptable. >> Ease of use can be debatable, what is easy for you and me >> does not necessary mean easy for somebody else. > > I wasn't saying anything about what you said, > beyond responding to your question: > > > Question is also do you want those people who are > > unvilling to scratch the surface and deep-dive > > into Emacs and spend time to learn it and configure > > it, to use Emacs? > > There's nothing personal in my answer to that > question. It's a reasonable question. And I > gave my honest answer to it - zero about you. Aha, OK, then I have slightly missunderstand what you ment. Sorry.