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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Thierry Volpiatto'" <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>,
	<emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: persistent lisp objects
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:53:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AFBA5C7BFF10496DB227C398021D95E4@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ljjv5y5b.fsf@tux.homenetwork>

> We can actually save any lisp object in a compiled file:
> 
> This is a feature of `eval-when-compile' that is not documented.
> It can be interesting as AFAIK there is no way to save object.

Now that the detour about licensing has died down, perhaps we can return to
this? ;-)

From what I understand, Thierry says that Emacs now has a general
serialization/deserialization feature, in the form of byte-compiling to a file
and then reading that file. I haven't tested it, but if true, this is great
news, and I'm surprised it isn't mentioned as such (that I can tell) in NEWS.

How about adding explicit Lisp functions that capture this feature, as such?
IOW, instead of a few people knowing about this as a nice hack that happens to
work with the (recent) byte-compiler, how about defining `(de)serialize'
functions that make use of this feature, and advertize those functions?

If the functions were standalone (even if they borrowed some of the
byte-compiler code), then they could perhaps even be used in older Emacs
versions.

IOW, how about breaking this part of the byte-compiler code out, as separate
functions (which would also be used by the byte-compiler, of course). (Dunno if
this last part makes sense - maybe it's the whole byte-compiler that would be
needed.)

Anyway, it sounds to me like Thierry's discovery, if general, could be exploited
and made more directly noticeable/usable by users.

And at the very least, how about documenting this existing feature, as Thierry
requested?





  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-07 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-29  8:50 persistent lisp objects Thierry Volpiatto
2009-10-01  8:14 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2009-10-07 16:53   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2009-10-07 22:03     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-07 22:10       ` Drew Adams
2009-10-08  5:11         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-10-25 10:33           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2009-10-25 10:26       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2009-10-25 15:05         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-27 20:18         ` Ted Zlatanov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-10-02 20:55 MON KEY
2009-10-03  3:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-03 19:19   ` MON KEY
2009-10-03 20:13 ` Richard Stallman
2009-10-04  0:15   ` MON KEY
2009-10-04 21:03     ` Richard Stallman

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