From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:17:41 +0000 Message-ID: References: <89DEE8B2-EA6A-4347-A9AB-D1B99C58E725@gmail.com> <7150D5AA-9F07-4479-8173-E10251372C7F@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131707990 28872 80.91.229.2 (11 Nov 2005 11:19:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 11 12:19:43 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaWv3-00042c-Hg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:18:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaWv1-0000wQ-KG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 06:18:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EaVyo-0007o0-0s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:17:59 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EaVyf-0007nR-Mw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:17:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaVyZ-0007nL-He for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:17:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.162.192] (helo=zproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EaVyZ-0006kA-J4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:17:43 -0500 Original-Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so152200nzo for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:17:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ZXAc79HOl5EJG31ZSCEHwUdyJHOscBasE79K7nVPIkOmsB1QnITf9pBL2DiT8gDfIjDklJCZvlNRPltbKP1iLj4gGaBTMG+yY1wDXQntAiAC0if65Io9Wci8EcTYXXB6xFoYadniwIhMS79PaWheUxj2ge7b+0pNzfmn1RYhwgA= Original-Received: by 10.64.27.16 with SMTP id a16mr1086483qba; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:17:42 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ?10.0.0.34? ( [82.13.31.46]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f14sm1287077qba.2005.11.11.02.17.42; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:17:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Original-To: Eli Zaretskii X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:45742 Archived-At: On 11 Nov 2005, at 10:02, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > It isn't complicated. Well then, good solution. >> >> 1. It is not displayed on my system when going through the menus. > > Did you turn the tooltips off? If not, perhaps there's some bug? I'm using the Carbon port, and I think the port just doesn't implement it. And it would be weird if it did, because on OS X there should be no extra explanations: Menu entries should be self- explanatory. (I don't see a technical way to display anything in a tooltip above the menu. Menu interaction is handled by the system.) > Second, the area near the bottom of the display is where other GUI > applications display longer descriptions of the menu items. Yes, on Windows and on GNU/Linux systems.