From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: New C-h/Delete issue on emacs22.2.1-nox (Xquartz 2.3.0) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:27:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <0caacc78-2b64-40e0-8359-f52ad39b0010@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <75eab720-b2d6-4b50-91eb-31ec2b8f9ad0@p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <00460e68-2344-4911-bfaf-c2e7213c2a47@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218047272 13768 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2008 18:27:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: matt Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 06 20:28:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KQnkP-0003VD-HO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:28:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36362 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQnjU-0006BM-6d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:27:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQnjB-00068g-8t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:27:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQnjA-00066m-FF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:27:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60629 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQnjA-00066Y-B4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:27:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de ([217.72.192.221]:47362) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KQnj9-0002GY-PC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:27:16 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C13EEA5F398; Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:27:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [91.35.207.163] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1KQnj8-0002XH-00; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:27:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <00460e68-2344-4911-bfaf-c2e7213c2a47@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19rt7BqiJm4O2tE3GGKaqz2n/KOJE9vIkWSa/H3 JuWgNyZ8A70EqmgcSuWYUGYWMSHx1YWW7qU1IUnFK6p3sQ9nsX 49sGpDk99F+PqNoXaR1A== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56212 Archived-At: Am 06.08.2008 um 18:19 schrieb matt: >> Then try to reserve another "character" for erase: >> >> stty erase '^?' >> >> This should free C-h. Obviously I should not have thought of the >> characters but the actions, that are each bound to some character ... > > Changing erase gives me back C-h -> help, but makes my "Delete" key > write '^H' in the terminal and do nothing at all in emacs. However, > when i use the C-DEL, it does delete backwards, and describe-key says > that that combo is just DEL ('backward-delete...). > Also, M-DEL still gives C-M-h. I am still working with Tiger and a rather old version of X11. I seem =20= to remember that I had a similiar problem in xterm =96 it "popped up" =20= one day. It was surprising. Could be this entry in ~/.Xdefaults cured =20= it: XTerm*ttyModes: erase ^? There is more possible with xterm ('man xterm', for example in GNU =20 Emacs, will show). There is also more support in GNU Emacs, C-h i =20 should lead to it, somehow. I don't remember much since I work almost =20= never in xterm =96 when X11 is running why should I launch GNU Emacs =20 without its own windows, as slave of an xterm?! > > Could it be that I should switch to an encoding other than ascii? > No. The standard ISO and Unicode encodings all start with the 128 =20 code points from US-ASCII. I'd recommend to check the Xquartz-dev =20 mailing list (mailto:Xquartz-dev@lists.macosforge.org) at http://=20 lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/xquartz-dev. It's about the =20= new X11R7 based X server and X11 releases from Apple. There is also =20 the more general X11-users mailing list (mailto:X11-=20 users@lists.apple.com) at http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/x11-=20= users. -- Greetings Pete It's not the valleys in life I dread so much as the dips. =96 Garfield