From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 14:09:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87lj8nsndb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <19545.14451.62000.682223@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19545.19472.187000.199606@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19545.20656.500000.91025@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280923822 14439 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2010 12:10:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Uday S Reddy , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , joakim@verona.se, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 04 14:10:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OgcnX-0001cs-0W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:10:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56855 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OgcnW-0006SQ-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:10:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34037 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OgcnR-0006RA-4q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:10:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OgcnO-0000y8-Pj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:10:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:55173) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OgcnO-0000y3-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:10:06 -0400 Original-Received: by qwk4 with SMTP id 4so3360701qwk.0 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 05:10:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pqXelzWCP7UWFfDqCV+2rhnCPcwgozArqgWwVkzZtM8=; b=iHcrigToHqQilIpzdf8uj1rUrwq+541v1FMkNz9n64J+sJYIpXmKfbadD+muz2oH0h n4psLx/vsEJF/vODJBT/1XXLWPAPY+X4RnW6vpSmLTvt3XhqCglPpsw92h7An6SWJmUQ /WJmO8b8FAGQid3abnYiwO/pCV+MhF0EbTUEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=yD8ESUTnM80IpVhQtGHmsf+crY/01v0GN/+CMrEXDyFWt1XbF0VIgXw8L6gojJV+3E 4NgAftCRPJ5bPQF/Pi6Z1Wo/iSaYg/vZcq4ay66UF2g1TPinq0QnUbsC1Nbs+CRkMMVJ RsQ8F3O/tYb9e/TW6BX9Hj8U+iJw+x8yGzmMs= Original-Received: by 10.229.131.143 with SMTP id x15mr2192417qcs.198.1280923806096; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 05:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.9.84 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 05:09:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128232 Archived-At: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Andreas Schwab wrot= e: > Uday S Reddy writes: > >> Further, I don't think the argument has validity. =C2=A0You don't have t= o >> "remember" the menu entries. =C2=A0You can see them! > > You have to remember where to search, and do search for them. =C2=A0And i= f > you change the language you are screwed. =C2=A0What a stupid concept. When someone says "stupid" I always get interested. What have that person got wrong? There is always a reason. Look for that. A lot of users thinks the current behavior in other applications is good and wants it.