From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bikeshedding go! Why is unbound? Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:14:47 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87sjx7z7w4.fsf@telefonica.net> <83pqsbmf6j.fsf@gnu.org> <87k4ijz07h.fsf@telefonica.net> <2460D97DEA4047B3B9DF92C4A80981EF@us.oracle.com> <57BF13882D6E494286547F293FE9D03B@us.oracle.com> <87lj2pfo81.fsf@wanadoo.es> <12B9F2D504D54D759E43154D6084E77D@us.oracle.com> <97AE4C97E1674829AC290276E7A205E4@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1294960523 6823 80.91.229.12 (13 Jan 2011 23:15:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= , Stuart Hacking , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Deniz Dogan To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 14 00:15:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdWNv-0004m1-0G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:15:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58831 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PdWNu-00040t-D9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:15:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46622 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PdWNp-00040m-RO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:15:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdWNo-0005HY-OF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:15:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ey0-f169.google.com ([209.85.215.169]:58805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdWNo-0005HU-If for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:15:08 -0500 Original-Received: by eyh6 with SMTP id 6so1147852eyh.0 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:15:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HFcSMCQgDSBEATVdBUU1tzoJg/SGK/iIZVgbtES5ao8=; b=Ea44r9FpXhmekmwDPJQaqomqkzsEkr6hlrDMVECwGt9um/+WXkVlbJ6RR6s7E63U9v 9aUvWv5n0xBtqBVbYlxVkhJed6XgyaItC490xJpI0sADLU4EFmWVU+mEKYT29IeB29Ec KeGuWBIVK7jK+hGpT0NXN2NSRjToe5fDVEiEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RjvgqvxCFpHOr3Z6Yz4jtMdxekYhkLkeSVlmQV3YrE9cbx9mFm8h5v8FQaHFHGG8+i gmRI4Nwlu4DlgdLK/MBP3/zWfj8RLSY7WMJcunvoaCps0PmGhkAbCwODn6sHUBR7PdyI uocy1ppt3ioJHwjfkzq1DsOQ4MFr6+8Jy+rDA= Original-Received: by 10.213.4.74 with SMTP id 10mr1009917ebq.84.1294960507630; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:15:07 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.213.20.148 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:14:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <97AE4C97E1674829AC290276E7A205E4@us.oracle.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134505 Archived-At: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > > You've said that for you the criterion is simply that MS Windows has this= `Close > Alt-F4' item in a system menu. It is the menu for Emacs. > How is this different from the umpteen other window-mgr keys? What ms doc says. How ingrained in muscle memory they are. How common they are in other apps. Maybe we have to be a bit specific. What other keys? > Or die? =C2=A0Lennart, please. I am just trying to maintain the balanced tone in the arguments. ;-)