* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-19 13:17 ` Dan Davison
@ 2010-05-19 14:28 ` Eric Schulte
2010-05-19 15:49 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-19 15:46 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Eric Schulte @ 2010-05-19 14:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Dan Davison; +Cc: Carsten Dominik, emacs-orgmode Mode, Bastien
Hi Carsten,
Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> writes:
> Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr> writes:
>
>> Hi Carsten,
>>
>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Is there anyone who would be willing to step up as a co-maintainer, at
>>> least for some time?
I'm sorry to say that I don't have enough time to step up in any real
sustained way. I've been continually amazed and grateful for the amount
of time you have been able to give to our community.
>>
>> I'd be glad to help, but I'm short of time for the moment and I
>>prefer to concentrate on maintaining the server and Worg.
>
> I'm afraid I can't devote significantly more time. (In any case, I do
> not know the agenda and task/time management side of org well enough.)
>
Likewise, my org expertise is fairly one or two sided, leaving out large
swaths of functionality -- e.g. I have no idea how GTD works.
>
> But I would be happy to help out in a, err, coalition. Would it be
> possible for us to develop a slightly more formalised triage/bug
> tracking system whereby any list member who feels able to can say "I'll
> look into this and report back with a recommendation for
> action".
If this is possible (I know we've talked about an org-mode based bug
tracker before with lukewarm results) then I should be able to help
tackle the stray bug such a model.
On org-babel we've had some success tracking pending development, and
tracking bugs in a single monolithic org-mode file in a github
repository [1].
Best -- Eric
> Perhaps this would work via a jointly maintained todo list on Worg or
> elsewhere? Any thoughts? Or is this optimistic and do we really need
> one person to step up?
>
> Dan
>
>
>>
>> You made Org a project people would be proud to co-maintain, I'm sure
>> someone good will step in!
>
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Footnotes:
[1] http://github.com/eschulte/babel-dev
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-19 14:28 ` Eric Schulte
@ 2010-05-19 15:49 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-05-19 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Eric Schulte; +Cc: Dan Davison, emacs-orgmode Mode, Bastien
On May 19, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Eric Schulte wrote:
> Hi Carsten,
>
> Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr> writes:
>>
>>> Hi Carsten,
>>>
>>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Is there anyone who would be willing to step up as a co-
>>>> maintainer, at
>>>> least for some time?
>
> I'm sorry to say that I don't have enough time to step up in any real
> sustained way.
I do believe that with org-babel, you and Dan *certainly* do your share.
> I've been continually amazed and grateful for the amount
> of time you have been able to give to our community.
In fact, it is more than can really afford - but I am a junkie who
needs to deal with his problems ...
>
>>>
>>> I'd be glad to help, but I'm short of time for the moment and I
>>> prefer to concentrate on maintaining the server and Worg.
>>
>> I'm afraid I can't devote significantly more time. (In any case, I do
>> not know the agenda and task/time management side of org well
>> enough.)
>>
>
> Likewise, my org expertise is fairly one or two sided, leaving out
> large
> swaths of functionality -- e.g. I have no idea how GTD works.
>
>>
>> But I would be happy to help out in a, err, coalition. Would it be
>> possible for us to develop a slightly more formalised triage/bug
>> tracking system whereby any list member who feels able to can say
>> "I'll
>> look into this and report back with a recommendation for
>> action".
>
> If this is possible (I know we've talked about an org-mode based bug
> tracker before with lukewarm results) then I should be able to help
> tackle the stray bug such a model.
>
> On org-babel we've had some success tracking pending development, and
> tracking bugs in a single monolithic org-mode file in a github
> repository [1].
>
> Best -- Eric
>
>> Perhaps this would work via a jointly maintained todo list on Worg or
>> elsewhere? Any thoughts? Or is this optimistic and do we really need
>> one person to step up?
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You made Org a project people would be proud to co-maintain, I'm
>>> sure
>>> someone good will step in!
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
> Footnotes:
> [1] http://github.com/eschulte/babel-dev
>
- Carsten
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-19 15:46 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-05-19 18:08 ` Karsten Heymann
2010-05-19 18:15 ` Matthew Jones
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From: Karsten Heymann @ 2010-05-19 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
Am 19.05.2010 17:46, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
> I think an issue-tracking system would be great. And if there are
> other people besides John who want to take up individual issues, I am
> sure this would be good.
One solution would be to switch the git repository to github.com and use
it's integrates issues functionality. From their site:
Issues
GitHub Issues adds lightweight issue tracking tightly integrated with
your repository. Close issues from commit messages, let users label
and vote on issues and drag & drop issues to priorize.
See it in action at
http://github.com/splitbrain/dokuwiki-plugin-data/issues
Maybe it's worth a look.
Yours
Karsten
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-19 18:08 ` Karsten Heymann
@ 2010-05-19 18:15 ` Matthew Jones
2010-05-19 18:51 ` Anthony Lander
2010-05-19 21:22 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Matthew Jones @ 2010-05-19 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs-orgmode
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MobileOrg and MobileOrg Android both use Github, and we both use the issue
tracker. Another boon to using Github for the project would be benefitting
from individual contributors maintaining "fork"s of the main repository...
then a maintainer could merge in fixes and features that others have worked
on with ease.
I have had several folks contribute to MobileOrg for Android in just this
manner and as the maintainer it has made my life very easy.
73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Karsten Heymann <kheymann@blue-cable.net>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 19.05.2010 17:46, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
> > I think an issue-tracking system would be great. And if there are
> > other people besides John who want to take up individual issues, I am
> > sure this would be good.
>
> One solution would be to switch the git repository to github.com and use
> it's integrates issues functionality. From their site:
>
> Issues
>
> GitHub Issues adds lightweight issue tracking tightly integrated with
> your repository. Close issues from commit messages, let users label
> and vote on issues and drag & drop issues to priorize.
>
> See it in action at
> http://github.com/splitbrain/dokuwiki-plugin-data/issues
>
> Maybe it's worth a look.
>
> Yours
> Karsten
>
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-19 18:08 ` Karsten Heymann
2010-05-19 18:15 ` Matthew Jones
@ 2010-05-19 18:51 ` Anthony Lander
2010-05-19 21:23 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-19 21:22 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Anthony Lander @ 2010-05-19 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Karsten Heymann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 10-May-19, at 2:08 PM, Karsten Heymann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 19.05.2010 17:46, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
>> I think an issue-tracking system would be great. And if there are
>> other people besides John who want to take up individual issues, I am
>> sure this would be good.
>
> One solution would be to switch the git repository to github.com and
> use
> it's integrates issues functionality.
+1
That would make it possible for people like me to cherry-pick issues
to work on, and leave Carsten & other people to approve and commit
patches rather than make them.
-anthony
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-19 18:08 ` Karsten Heymann
2010-05-19 18:15 ` Matthew Jones
2010-05-19 18:51 ` Anthony Lander
@ 2010-05-19 21:22 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-19 22:30 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-05-19 21:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Karsten Heymann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On May 19, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Karsten Heymann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 19.05.2010 17:46, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
>> I think an issue-tracking system would be great. And if there are
>> other people besides John who want to take up individual issues, I am
>> sure this would be good.
>
> One solution would be to switch the git repository to github.com and
> use
> it's integrates issues functionality. From their site:
>
> Issues
>
> GitHub Issues adds lightweight issue tracking tightly integrated with
> your repository. Close issues from commit messages, let users label
> and vote on issues and drag & drop issues to priorize.
That might be interesting. I just got a mail from John, he will set
up patchwork for us, which seems to be an automated issue-tracking
system based on patches on a mailing list. This looks good to me
because it keeps thinks on the mailing list which has worked for us so
far. Lets start with that, and think about moving to github for a bit
longer.
- Carsten
>
> See it in action at
> http://github.com/splitbrain/dokuwiki-plugin-data/issues
>
> Maybe it's worth a look.
>
> Yours
> Karsten
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
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- Carsten
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-19 18:51 ` Anthony Lander
@ 2010-05-19 21:23 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-19 21:39 ` Anthony Lander
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-05-19 21:23 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Anthony Lander; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On May 19, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Anthony Lander wrote:
>
> On 10-May-19, at 2:08 PM, Karsten Heymann wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am 19.05.2010 17:46, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
>>> I think an issue-tracking system would be great. And if there are
>>> other people besides John who want to take up individual issues, I
>>> am
>>> sure this would be good.
>>
>> One solution would be to switch the git repository to github.com
>> and use
>> it's integrates issues functionality.
>
>
> +1
>
> That would make it possible for people like me to cherry-pick issues
> to work on, and leave Carsten & other people to approve and commit
> patches rather than make them.
Why is that easier on GitHub than on any web-based git hosting system
(it may well be - only I don't know!)
- Carsten
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-19 21:23 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-05-19 21:39 ` Anthony Lander
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From: Anthony Lander @ 2010-05-19 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 10-May-19, at 5:23 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> On May 19, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Anthony Lander wrote:
>
>>
>> On 10-May-19, at 2:08 PM, Karsten Heymann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 19.05.2010 17:46, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
>>>> I think an issue-tracking system would be great. And if there are
>>>> other people besides John who want to take up individual issues,
>>>> I am
>>>> sure this would be good.
>>>
>>> One solution would be to switch the git repository to github.com
>>> and use
>>> it's integrates issues functionality.
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> That would make it possible for people like me to cherry-pick
>> issues to work on, and leave Carsten & other people to approve and
>> commit patches rather than make them.
>
> Why is that easier on GitHub than on any web-based git hosting system
> (it may well be - only I don't know!)
I don't know that it matters. I am just familiar with github.
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-19 21:22 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-05-19 22:30 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2010-05-19 22:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That might be interesting. I just got a mail from John, he will set
> up patchwork for us, which seems to be an automated issue-tracking
> system based on patches on a mailing list. This looks good to me
> because it keeps thinks on the mailing list which has worked for us so
> far. Lets start with that, and think about moving to github for a bit
> longer.
>
AFAIK, patchwork (http://ozlabs.org/~jk/projects/patchwork/) snags
*patches* off the mailing list and squirrels them away so they are
not lost, but it is not an issue-tracking system.
Nick
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* Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
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@ 2010-05-20 17:52 ` Thomas Renkert
2010-05-20 21:34 ` John Wiegley
2010-05-24 14:50 ` Uday S Reddy
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From: Thomas Renkert @ 2010-05-20 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs-orgmode
What about using launchpad.net for bugtracking?
Bugreports and code reviews can be done via email so they could be cc:ed
to the traditional mailing list while they would show up at the same
time in the web interface.
Also, launchpad encourages more non-programming users to send in and
react on bugs and patches via the "answers"-interface.
By this, maybe at least some of the maintenance tasks can be distributed
more evenly among people who would occasionaly check out a few lines of
code but who don't feel familiar enough with lisp an a large scale.
Just a thought...
Cheers,
Thomas Renkert
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-20 17:52 ` Co-maintainer, a least for some time? Thomas Renkert
@ 2010-05-20 21:34 ` John Wiegley
2010-05-20 21:57 ` Greg Newman
2010-05-24 14:50 ` Uday S Reddy
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From: John Wiegley @ 2010-05-20 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Thomas Renkert; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On May 20, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Thomas Renkert wrote:
> What about using launchpad.net for bugtracking?
GitHub also has simple issue tracking, with the advantage that it can bind very closely with Git commits.
John
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-20 21:34 ` John Wiegley
@ 2010-05-20 21:57 ` Greg Newman
2010-05-20 22:24 ` John Wiegley
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From: Greg Newman @ 2010-05-20 21:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: John Wiegley; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Thomas Renkert
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I have a mirror of Org up on Bitbucket at
http://bitbucket.org/mirror/org-mode
It wouldn't take much to have Jesper turn on the issues feature for it if
there is interest. (just sayin)
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Thomas Renkert wrote:
>
> > What about using launchpad.net for bugtracking?
>
> GitHub also has simple issue tracking, with the advantage that it can bind
> very closely with Git commits.
>
> John
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-20 21:57 ` Greg Newman
@ 2010-05-20 22:24 ` John Wiegley
2010-05-20 22:52 ` Greg Newman
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From: John Wiegley @ 2010-05-20 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Greg Newman; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Thomas Renkert
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On May 20, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Greg Newman wrote:
> I have a mirror of Org up on Bitbucket at http://bitbucket.org/mirror/org-mode
> It wouldn't take much to have Jesper turn on the issues feature for it if there is interest. (just sayin)
I have a Git mirror on http://github.com/jwiegley/org-mode (have had for some time), and it's issue tracking feature is already on.
John
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* Re: Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-20 22:24 ` John Wiegley
@ 2010-05-20 22:52 ` Greg Newman
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From: Greg Newman @ 2010-05-20 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: John Wiegley; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Thomas Renkert
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wow. I had no idea John. Thanks for letting me know!!
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:24 PM, John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Greg Newman wrote:
>
> I have a mirror of Org up on Bitbucket at
> http://bitbucket.org/mirror/org-mode
> It wouldn't take much to have Jesper turn on the issues feature for it if
> there is interest. (just sayin)
>
>
> I have a Git mirror on http://github.com/jwiegley/org-mode (have had for
> some time), and it's issue tracking feature is already on.
>
> John
>
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* Re: Co-maintainer, a least for some time?
2010-05-20 17:52 ` Co-maintainer, a least for some time? Thomas Renkert
2010-05-20 21:34 ` John Wiegley
@ 2010-05-24 14:50 ` Uday S Reddy
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From: Uday S Reddy @ 2010-05-24 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs-orgmode
On 5/20/2010 6:52 PM, Thomas Renkert wrote:
> What about using launchpad.net for bugtracking?
>
> Bugreports and code reviews can be done via email so they could be cc:ed
> to the traditional mailing list while they would show up at the same
> time in the web interface.
>
> Also, launchpad encourages more non-programming users to send in and
> react on bugs and patches via the "answers"-interface.
>
> By this, maybe at least some of the maintenance tasks can be distributed
> more evenly among people who would occasionaly check out a few lines of
> code but who don't feel familiar enough with lisp an a large scale.
Plus 1 for Launchpad.
We use it for maintaining VM and the collection of facilities on the site work quite well. The main downside is its over-reliance on the web. The other is that it uses Bazaar for version control, which is probably not as streamlined as Git.
But Launchpad is an integrated project management site that allows you to schedule milestores/releases, allocate bugs/issues to them, and makes sure that everything gets done. It provides for a variety of roles such as bug supervisor, driver, release manager etc., and allow for bugs/issues to be allocated to various members of the team. For a large team of contributors, which is what Org mode seems to be tending towards, it could be a big win.
You can check out the VM home page, https://launchpad.net/vm, to see how it works.
Cheers,
Uday
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