From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What does Emacs on w32 know that grep can't figure out? Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 03:32:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285896813 2884 80.91.229.12 (1 Oct 2010 01:33:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 01:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 03:33:32 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1UUU-0000N4-I8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 03:33:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42261 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P1UUJ-0007GD-68 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:32:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48107 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P1UUC-0007Dw-FM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:32:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P1UU8-0006Vw-EK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:32:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:46786) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P1UU8-0006Vq-BF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36so2949851qyk.0 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:32:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=zWjtiG1AyqImXuY+IFM4ASEfRokYiJ2xVN/rx7SBXYo=; b=D2Bd3wQt5aj+7XKXg7lWEPJVBcFzESuS21k8NfPEstaNqJUgxsva1nxpjjgWhxWL46 2W5/omkrlEjRD4BJoPMX2hqM+m1xTRGqFGGVpIswts+maL0Z4gNmy6D7N67uNEcO6u+Q kWPzsqfZXA+20CTunFvDX9xHuiKwHQKBI3nFg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=FTy7iwC2wHhbiK5Mwxw4DEvxqyds53jQDbHq/+OY4la68b4z5Vin2AmtkNMP2PsWW6 YarGYyGgUEQAExUkDvHOPP3t3ONGOHV9Du4XQuHEZzH+n+oS1+vao6VT2emlYvWKBPnO xA/jdwD9Gwy4daIARrzz6LvxXvmNLnUii1u+o= Original-Received: by 10.224.128.13 with SMTP id i13mr3228134qas.151.1285896747364; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.220.195 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:32:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131117 Archived-At: On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 03:06, Lennart Borgman wrote: > >> If the tool chain is broken then the tools that depends on it are also >> broken. Aren't they? > > Oh, I wouldn't consider Emacs broken if I cannot grep utf-16 files > from inside it. YMMV. I am a bit surprised by that. >> Yes, but that is a quite unfortunate state IMO. New users will just >> say "ah, this tool is broken, let us try something else". > > And what will they use? Some tool with an internal search capable of handling utf-16 files? And are not most of the things to handle that from within Emacs actually in place? Though of course putting files into buffers to search them are out of the question for performance reasons.