From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Fren Zeee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The copyright issue (Was: Key bindings proposal) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:36:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: <19546.32875.515000.117266@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19547.55402.208000.241757@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281112335 4213 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2010 16:32:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 18:32:14 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhPq2-00018H-IN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:32:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33253 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhPq2-0000LR-9h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:32:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42534 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhPng-0006lc-PU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:29:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhOyh-0003Ug-Fs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:37:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169]:36725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhOyh-0003US-CF; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:36:59 -0400 Original-Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11so3907515gyb.0 for ; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:36:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=R/CQCs/py3eAXLJr7vXDEroI47K6SrJVRKCQnMFmDHg=; b=rAQf1W3ARw2igyH4fwh+gUODwIUHMo8sgYFY4xhSMh+T5aFJZDVbJcW/kFE6PeEz4+ VfhMUA0PKJqDdwjNkwWJmETzcidFseDFY+Egzt+Y0xCwJevp9ftcXwrbAX7ON5qNDf7Y l2dHhRwf8pqExsd/i1nivNWFFvnXmQZlLuEnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hu1Nc625ZciD0+y0JdK4Tzsv+f6kquokIuS9bIBGLHmiKSgGvPLqswmtzyBWGIoodR rZsc1cmOVdRmVt74mXhROkUry9lHk1+ikMD/xs6wtzy8/zvPjR6iEYl3aP1Ciog5+EPo bTGDDe+y8kHgn7la5nX4bOgdy0F1JKuL2SZRo= Original-Received: by 10.150.193.3 with SMTP id q3mr13906521ybf.410.1281109018403; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.199.80 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:36:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19547.55402.208000.241757@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128383 Archived-At: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Uday S Reddy wrot= e: > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > It is not that we can't -- it is that we won't. =A0Our goal is to > > eliminate nonfree software, not enhance it. > > Ok, I understand the revolutionary aspect of the project (which I > might not have fully understood before). > > But there are two further questions: > > - What is the best way to live in the mixed economy until the > revolution succeeds? =A0If I understand correctly, Aquamacs *is* free > software, but its level of cooperation with proprietary software might > be different from Gnu's. > > - The copyright problem also seems to block Gnu from absorbing, or > even partrnering with, other fully free software (with no question of > any nonfree software). =A0I have in mind all the stuff on nongnu.org. > Your statement above isn't addressing that issue. > The only way to achieve this condition of "freedom" is to educate the people and by answering the architecture type questions in a doc then I am writing. No company will dare charge more than service fee in that case. But now its a monopoly. This will achieve results faster than waiting till the end of the world which is by the way coming very soon according to many calenders.