From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:09:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> <87iq5py7xk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276276223 31028 80.91.229.12 (11 Jun 2010 17:10:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , David Kastrup , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: James Cloos Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 11 19:10:21 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ON7kI-0003ZC-8I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:10:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51996 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ON7kH-0007h1-GE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:10:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42843 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ON7k6-0007dL-G5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:10:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ON7k5-0001Q6-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:10:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gw0-f41.google.com ([74.125.83.41]:52013) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ON7k5-0001Px-4D; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:10:05 -0400 Original-Received: by gwaa18 with SMTP id a18so476981gwa.0 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:10:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=8EN3ROvsODs9yCw9XoGVNk36n6BYWDmYBIIeHnhxx3U=; b=gTchLhdT0Rwz0m5dnKhpc8HXMl18/6oRhg9Hh1i3lQATjGwJ2PIVicBtl5AmRlcni0 DZAUy6BIHaNhyzimxZBOGZQx3VYBzkifzMsOVduqjODO5C3tMFOZ9MkkBMchAQ/J5+hV aLMKTbm75kti5Qzs1471mnuWu+BkGKyzrzpsI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=btGVFJYl9JjSq03/0roERON3xJ5GTXKa/6wMh9AtSdurvR6HpMA487sZUXB/q/3dC+ dTE+/7f8BM2L3VTtjVNl073pPNcHo2wxiccScFRulX/rNOk2KMXp7S3Bpw/y9HAQCS/+ 7BxeHYtSxig41xBAnnhRhc6exl12fDYWHZ0+I= Original-Received: by 10.101.144.11 with SMTP id w11mr1831225ann.182.1276276204263; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.100.154.15 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125749 Archived-At: On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 6:29 PM, James Cloos wrote: > > In Openoffice.org, the arrow keys move logically. Seems like a mistake to me. There will be lot of graphical apps where the arrow keys move things visually. I think switching the visual directions of the arrow will interfere badly because using them is most certainly in low level memory (body memory) in the user.