From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:25:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> <87iq5py7xk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83eigclgf0.fsf@gnu.org> <89C16A134A024399A06EFE296DC6916F@us.oracle.com> <83r5kcjkpp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276363578 7338 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2010 17:26:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 12 19:26:16 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONUTE-0000q8-7j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:26:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50603 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONUTD-0008P2-FJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:26:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60973 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONUT5-0008Mg-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:26:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONUT4-00040H-6k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.213.169]:35072) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONUT4-00040D-31; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:26:02 -0400 Original-Received: by yxf34 with SMTP id 34so169844yxf.0 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:26:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Hm8gC70Oa5FAeNgC5IqL6xJTYJK3+IsnC/ttilC+ttM=; b=v9G4T68ZSPEbQaP2bHCpZGEusAGm38YuUmqL1MRWVxQBxqC3sbUmDn7/Fei9ImSbv0 BnBrAIMNBF7DfObtMYkDmlueVt314i5iAW0B8KuK5463YhGzClMkAtXtzXuSPj7WK8fn kxzRje5oEtxWuHLhId1XCmxG1gUZryRHXlfNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=RBKSvFbUe59In4pW5Mu9dSUK7bav5VGBD5iE24N5EGHU7Bt6ud8HwlvOEct+zU6ZcO CAOCwBeu/YuI0lGUCo389N080n2hVXhGEubYNH4jDtBAMxXotDW8udgznH/ngVw0MJwD 3LQTy4kUMQrOqXKFiJ23KGXbFfqwN+NzYWW8M= Original-Received: by 10.101.132.14 with SMTP id j14mr2926052ann.143.1276363561282; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.100.154.15 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:25:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125829 Archived-At: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > > In fact, you might drop "logical" altogether - the word itself doesn't really > help here. If you speak about the order of the chars in the buffer (as opposed > to how they appear) I think that will be clear. >From what I read it seems to me that "logical" should mean "human reading order", not the buffer character order. I guess they are the same here, but that is an implementation detail (which I think is good since it seems to simplify many things).