From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:03:18 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278720612 4519 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2010 00:10:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "fplemma@gmail.com" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" , "rms@gnu.org" , "joakim@verona.se" , christian.lynbech@tieto.com To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 10 02:10:10 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXNdx-0006D2-L7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:10:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38108 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXNdw-0005iv-PI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43809 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXNdj-0005d7-7k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:09:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXNXg-0005B8-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:03:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:46465) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXNXf-0005B4-VD; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1806436bwz.0 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XDl9V8ljAfiv8I3WC5QC7zOfXfv4axjN/Z0Ns46uVUk=; b=Jms1XBhP9of4djvntBklp5u7CPTGQr3qiahOvuHIrwFPd4JMdAYCeGgFFegLVRY64N lUi2Fjdsq/+JnzrQBMauFo3LNIX9cVIbH0B8ttmL25KiJtnhK/hIFzDEFtAF/4k9jGVV 0T+t/TbQntWB+NRahTXCDsceABdL6J2nEwwAw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uyQeojXhoQ8PD/heuQQUWmWrbjoCLmhnHIE44OYqp3fcEMooUqCtWGEISKwTVRy4Y0 6bmi1z+laAO2J80lAGRzcwbl8gHqzf7r7lfZaTyev6uHbKcu+CzALMgSPtssKQweoU9U +4jzOsBPgwnWbe2Q5jYfDIdR/lJfXP9Ddxo9A= Original-Received: by 10.204.48.210 with SMTP id s18mr8141402bkf.62.1278720218318; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.204.53.204 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:03:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126974 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 15:09, Lennart Borgman w= rote: > The reordering is done exactly to make emacsclient.c start Emacs when nee= ded. It's hard to believe that moving functions around is *exactly* what's needed to add functionality. > So I do not understand what you ask for. 1.- Move original emacsclient functions back to where they were. 2.- Do a diff, which should result in a list of the *real differences* between your emacsclient and the trunk's, instead of being a full file diff like it is now because of your reordering. 3.- Send the patch *and* a good ChangeLog, or some kind of explanation of the changes and what they do (and how they work, if it is not evident). 4.- Wait for comments. 5.- *Act* on those comments. 6.- Repeat 3-5 until everybody is (more or less) satisfied with the result= . 7. Commit your changes or ask for them to be committed. Isn't that difficult, really. All you need is the intention of doing the work, instead of dumping your emacsclient and asking others to do it for you... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma