From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Time string format Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:08:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <83k4k9b1f9.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipztb0f6.fsf@gnu.org> <83fwuxarkf.fsf@gnu.org> <83bp5kba99.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290255927 27549 80.91.229.12 (20 Nov 2010 12:25:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 20 13:25:23 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PJmVM-00049D-Qz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:25:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60572 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PJmVL-0003nF-6J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:25:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59894 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PJmFv-0001c6-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:09:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PJmFG-0004lP-HG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:09:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ey0-f169.google.com ([209.85.215.169]:36012) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PJmFG-0004ky-Co; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:08:42 -0500 Original-Received: by eydd26 with SMTP id d26so3237109eyd.0 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 04:08:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mupJq4ng2R8+VxotKLX+0kTe7F6ZV05GAQbNuevX/d0=; b=syiBasj6+5wrJ1snFJxKzMz4N2PoJCc3bJERQa3iYH0B5w+muxoCSQDfV9fSFKzYyx QRBIkzu4kkPfPUb9KUVelfJYDo23yecFetSOuTJXLlLi214w1C0whmNunZuOMhLNFys7 jJ16pNCFQ2JQfVCFaGbaXCM9h5iRsKj3NXwSk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C6XQLvCCiLoXQq/BP8dStTMyzt9jTyGbi0Hs0hOb3zp9aSeQd715+oPN6jeHr8GqC2 wXv5Kx6MDt8QPlFybzTjNyZH0glpiAcNxx6L/BD35uoZf/4Hvw6yi5budB6ban4n9iha 9z4hlHWw8ShdqsnGGU3TzrtqeDXiK/5cUzq5s= Original-Received: by 10.213.14.79 with SMTP id f15mr2705416eba.58.1290254920903; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 04:08:40 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.213.22.135 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 04:08:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83bp5kba99.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132904 Archived-At: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Lennart Borgman >> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 02:25:16 +0100 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> From: Lennart Borgman >> >> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 20:36:06 +0100 >> >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> >> >> There is an ISO format for displaying time. See the doc string of >> >> format-time-string, at the bottom. >> > >> > I don't see any relevance of the ISO format to the issue at hand. >> >> Why not? Is not the ISO time format relevant for all languages? > > No. =C2=A0You cannot force a culture to use ISO. =C2=A0The ISO format, as= I > understand it, is mainly for machine-readable output, not for humans. It was invented for paper format from the beginning. The purpose was mainly avoiding misunderstandings. (But US did not adapt it so the misunderstandings continued.) >> Or do you think of right-to-left languages? > > That too, but not just. Don't they have a common standardized time format?