From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:22:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19537.40472.267000.563053@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <176EDAD3B9E54E39870FA3F84A5DDF3C@us.oracle.com> <19542.56658.583000.394397@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281021546 12967 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2010 15:19:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 05 17:19:01 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh2Dg-0004H1-Lx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:19:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45882 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh2Dd-00039O-LE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:18:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52445 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oh21R-0003EP-HG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:06:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh21M-0003iB-SG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:06:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.216.169]:46318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oh21M-0003i7-Q3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:06:12 -0400 Original-Received: by qyk12 with SMTP id 12so3261699qyk.0 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:06:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9dVy52Blgi0FXmCTsJeK/sg5oiIieOKlQqs5wPCBD/c=; b=l/PwAtRGYJ1aBeK3Q+uTe0Dldoy0KZp9DwomNfXe7RjijJF58BkFhEmJgVTvco3oqR eEdLGnDx0QVGfMWtEOy2Bno3ef1rh15sKsE/4QxiBKXonM3bJ2V9N0h9IU3KRpqgr4zu 0vp1ZXpLouLoTiltPaKpDboQEw16fRcYrOME0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ie1QqEUA5HBq7Hy0gDv86wRU4vOxkiWomtlRXSWKKOPiTtFtaWoub/ICIsbiR0p8OI UTLJwEqABSq09y0sPlInrY3x9lubUDr+C7lPupE8NmRF9z6e6QnQBhYp+ApKkgesKyYL w+ZxJo8zhBMjzswR4kzqZ5duXGLt39sb8PsRo= Original-Received: by 10.229.10.216 with SMTP id q24mr3416001qcq.275.1281014584182; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 06:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.9.84 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 06:22:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128281 Archived-At: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Uday S Reddy wrot= e: > > I agree with Juanma that these things do not seem to warrant a fork. I do not know if that is Juanmas position but I agree with you. > I don't know the history, but I would encourage you to stay on and do > whatever is necessary to get the changes accepted. =C2=A0There can be qui= te > a bit of work involved in getting there, to document, test, and fit > things into the existing structure. Those patches have been used quite a long time now and I have had no complaints. (But part of it could be written better, perhaps.) Unfortunately I do not have that much time to spend on this now. (I have spent quite a lot of time on nXhtml. Parts of it are complicated.) > Like Juanma, I also don't know why it is essential to use the Windows > key as meta. =C2=A0I am able to use Alt as the meta key in Emacs and also > get Alt+TAB to switch W32 windows. You can not override Alt-TAB so that you can use it to switch w32 windows is because ms has decided it to work that way. However in Emacs META-TAB is frequently used for completion functions. That can not work on w32 (and with some other window managers if I understood it correctly). >I can momentarily depress Alt to activate the menubar. Can you? Please give more details.